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Fuel line damaged! NOOO
« on: 01 October 2010, 15:06:03 »

Hi I was changing my fuel filter yesterday which looks to have never been changed ever - it was so seized the end of the fuel line sheared off in the process, gutted. Its snapped off at the right angle right on the end where the filter goes on. Obviously that's rendered me immediately carless, nooo!

I've found a repair kit but I can't get it until Wednesday - can anyone give me the pipe diameter/QD fitting size for this or suggest a different stockist?

Here's the part in question, will this be the right fit?

http://www.lgwservices.co.uk/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=19

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John
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Re: Fuel line damaged! NOOO
« Reply #1 on: 01 October 2010, 15:11:06 »

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Hi I was changing my fuel filter yesterday which looks to have never been changed ever - it was so seized the end of the fuel line sheared off in the process, gutted. Its snapped off at the right angle right on the end where the filter goes on. Obviously that's rendered me immediately carless, nooo!

I've found a repair kit but I can't get it until Wednesday - can anyone give me the pipe diameter/QD fitting size for this or suggest a different stockist?

Here's the part in questionwill this be the right fit?



http://www.lgwservices.co.uk/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=19

Ta

John


Did you mean CARELESS.   ;)
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Re: Fuel line damaged! NOOO
« Reply #2 on: 01 October 2010, 15:36:45 »

To be honest, if it was me, I would be getting a short length of rubber fuel hose and 2 jubilee clips....available from any good motor factors.

Get hose with internal diameter suitable to fit on the filter section (6 or 8mm at a guess), with some lube and a little warming of the rubber pipe in boiling water, this should push over the end of the plastic section ok.

Push the other end on the filter and secure the 2 jubilee clips.

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« Reply #3 on: 01 October 2010, 16:03:01 »

Ditto - although a word of warning if you're not au-fait with these things; make sure you buy hose sold for fuel injection systems as it needs to have a high burst pressure (IIRC it's usually up around 15bar) vs. carburettor fuel hose.

Granted most places sell high pressure hose these days what with carbs being quite rare, but it warrants mentioning, I think :)

(I'd use fuel hose clamps rather than jubilee clips too, but that's more personal preference than anything else when it's a temporary repair)
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Re: Fuel line damaged! NOOO
« Reply #4 on: 01 October 2010, 16:18:46 »

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To be honest, if it was me, I would be getting a short length of rubber fuel hose and 2 jubilee clips....

Did exactly this on a previous car when the line was crushed by grounding it. No problem at all.

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Re: Fuel line damaged! NOOO
« Reply #5 on: 01 October 2010, 16:46:08 »

Wicked guys, cheers. so little bit of pipe, 1 end over the original fuel pipe, other over the filter yes, clipped in place? Aye I read about the pressure as its injection. Got that.

And @Kneepad - you know it! What a numpty eh!  ;D
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« Reply #6 on: 01 October 2010, 17:29:37 »

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Ditto - although a word of warning if you're not au-fait with these things; make sure you buy hose sold for fuel injection systems as it needs to have a high burst pressure (IIRC it's usually up around 15bar) vs. carburettor fuel hose.

Granted most places sell high pressure hose these days what with carbs being quite rare, but it warrants mentioning, I think :)

(I'd use fuel hose clamps rather than jubilee clips too, but that's more personal preference than anything else when it's a temporary repair)

4 bar tops  :y
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Re: Fuel line damaged! NOOO
« Reply #7 on: 01 October 2010, 18:30:18 »

Sweet, just picked up the bits from Halfrauds, now to get a soggy back! Cheers guys :)
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« Reply #8 on: 01 October 2010, 20:22:01 »

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Ditto - although a word of warning if you're not au-fait with these things; make sure you buy hose sold for fuel injection systems as it needs to have a high burst pressure (IIRC it's usually up around 15bar) vs. carburettor fuel hose.

Granted most places sell high pressure hose these days what with carbs being quite rare, but it warrants mentioning, I think :)

(I'd use fuel hose clamps rather than jubilee clips too, but that's more personal preference than anything else when it's a temporary repair)

4 bar tops  :y

Aye for the fuel system - but the burst pressure of fuel hose is quite a bit more than that usually, no? :)

(Had the Nissan up to 75psi once.. the fuel pressure regulator was in backward  ;D )
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Re: Fuel line damaged! NOOO
« Reply #9 on: 01 October 2010, 21:02:44 »

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Ditto - although a word of warning if you're not au-fait with these things; make sure you buy hose sold for fuel injection systems as it needs to have a high burst pressure (IIRC it's usually up around 15bar) vs. carburettor fuel hose.

Granted most places sell high pressure hose these days what with carbs being quite rare, but it warrants mentioning, I think :)

(I'd use fuel hose clamps rather than jubilee clips too, but that's more personal preference than anything else when it's a temporary repair)

4 bar tops  :y

Aye for the fuel system - but the burst pressure of fuel hose is quite a bit more than that usually, no? :)

(Had the Nissan up to 75psi once.. the fuel pressure regulator was in backward  ;D )

1 Bar = 1 atmosphere =  14.7psi so 75 psi is only a little over 5 bar.
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« Reply #10 on: 01 October 2010, 21:09:14 »

Yes... but the rated burst pressure of the hose is higher still (the Nissan bit was just an aside) ;)
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« Reply #11 on: 01 October 2010, 21:18:59 »

I wouldn't be worrying too much about the hose bursting. The most likely failure mode is the rubber hose sliding off the plastic pipe.

Make sure that you leave a section of the plastic connector inside the plastic pipe  - if the rubber pipe does start to slide off it will stop when the jubilee clip reaches the 'bell end' (oo-er missus!)

No harm in using the best quality you can get though. I have lost count of the number of times I have had to replace rubber fuel hoses on my old Range Rover :y
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Re: Fuel line damaged! NOOO
« Reply #12 on: 01 October 2010, 21:30:03 »

Fair point, especially with no bump in the pipe to keep the hose on, that'd pop before the hose ever did.

I know what you mean about replacing hoses - I've had to replace the piece joining the two injector rails on the Nissan a few times, and annoyingly it runs right under the inlet manifold (well thought out, that  ;D )

Anyhoo :)
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« Reply #13 on: 01 October 2010, 21:51:04 »

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I wouldn't be worrying too much about the hose bursting. The most likely failure mode is the rubber hose sliding off the plastic pipe.

Make sure that you leave a section of the plastic connector inside the plastic pipe  - if the rubber pipe does start to slide off it will stop when the jubilee clip reaches the 'bell end' (oo-er missus!)

No harm in using the best quality you can get though. I have lost count of the number of times I have had to replace rubber fuel hoses on my old Range Rover :y
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« Reply #14 on: 01 October 2010, 22:15:28 »

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I wouldn't be worrying too much about the hose bursting. The most likely failure mode is the rubber hose sliding off the plastic pipe.

Make sure that you leave a section of the plastic connector inside the plastic pipe  - if the rubber pipe does start to slide off it will stop when the jubilee clip reaches the 'bell end' (oo-er missus!)

No harm in using the best quality you can get though. I have lost count of the number of times I have had to replace rubber fuel hoses on my old Range Rover :y
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