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Cant get steering lock off... Help please
« on: 27 November 2010, 12:08:48 »

Hi, mick has went out to start the meega & steering lock
wont budge ? Could this be frozen.

Any ideas appreciated
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Re: Cant get steering lock off... Help please
« Reply #1 on: 27 November 2010, 12:18:14 »

have you tried to turn the wheel and holding it as far is it will move (bout 10mm) and whilst holding it there turn the key in the ignition.

failing that maybe the old indicator stalk bit breaking off into the steering mech has happened.
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Re: Cant get steering lock off... Help please
« Reply #2 on: 27 November 2010, 12:24:54 »

Everything was fine when it got parked up on wednesday,
Dont quite follow what u mean about indicators.
Thank you for you reply.

Mich has done the wobble thing & tried both keys & wd'd it.

Could it be frozen ?

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Re: Cant get steering lock off... Help please
« Reply #3 on: 27 November 2010, 12:27:18 »

theres a tab that sticks out of the indicator stalk (in at the steering wheel) that clicks the indicator off when you have finished turning round the corner, sometimes they pop off and go inside the steering boss, jamming it or making a clicking sound as you turn the wheel

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Re: Cant get steering lock off... Help please
« Reply #4 on: 27 November 2010, 13:27:48 »

thanks for the reply , any idea how i get the barrell etc off to try and sort it? :'( :'(
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Re: Cant get steering lock off... Help please
« Reply #5 on: 27 November 2010, 13:32:09 »

there is 3 screws under the cowling, and 2 either side of the steering boss, which ironically you need to turn the steering wheel slightly to get the screw driver in to

there is usually plastic plugs covering those 2 screws, which just pull out to let you access the screw head

if you are stuck for pics let me know and il take a couple and post them up at some point

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Re: Cant get steering lock off... Help please
« Reply #6 on: 27 November 2010, 14:00:45 »

have got the cowling off , have had to snap one of those hidden screws as obviously wheel wouldnt turn, cant work out how to get the barrel out ? cant even work out how to get the immobiliser off the barrel?
Thanks for replying and offering pics but any advice on how to get the barrel off when the key wont turn?
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Re: Cant get steering lock off... Help please
« Reply #7 on: 27 November 2010, 14:22:38 »

the barrel must be turned to position two(red lights on) to get the barrel out there is a guide in the mantanice section how to do this with a barrel overhaul,hth :y
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Re: Cant get steering lock off... Help please
« Reply #8 on: 27 November 2010, 15:36:21 »

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the barrel must be turned to position two(red lights on) to get the barrel out there is a guide in the mantanice section how to do this with a barrel overhaul,hth :y
thanks for that but i couldnt get the key to turn so couldnt get position 2? ::)
have done it now though  me and heavy the hammer destroyed the barrel ;D

Basically i hit the end the key goes in a few times and the end snapped off , so from there i just used a screwdriver to get bits of the barrel out and the tumblers until the key would turn, think the problem was with tumbler 8 or something  ;D ;D
Need a barrel now BUT the end that initially snapped can be put back in place when you leave the car so no oportunistic pikey smackheads look and go hmmm no barrel = joyride 8-)
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Re: Cant get steering lock off... Help please
« Reply #9 on: 27 November 2010, 15:41:54 »

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the barrel must be turned to position two(red lights on) to get the barrel out there is a guide in the mantanice section how to do this with a barrel overhaul,hth :y

Incorrect, it needs to be at number 1 to remove the barrel.

Have you tried any lube in the key slot? Use a PTFE based lub or gun/duck oil. Take the pressure off the lock pin by turning the wheel slightly and wiggle the key left and right as you try turning it.
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« Reply #10 on: 27 November 2010, 19:01:15 »

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the barrel must be turned to position two(red lights on) to get the barrel out there is a guide in the mantanice section how to do this with a barrel overhaul,hth :y

Incorrect, it needs to be at number 1 to remove the barrel.

Have you tried any lube in the key slot? Use a PTFE based lub or gun/duck oil. Take the pressure off the lock pin by turning the wheel slightly and wiggle the key left and right as you try turning it.

Too late but thanks, have destryed the barrel :-[ but got it started :y :y :y
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Re: Cant get steering lock off... Help please
« Reply #11 on: 27 November 2010, 19:41:27 »

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Too late but thanks, have destryed the barrel :-[ but got it started :y :y :y

If you get another key & barrel it's not difficult to make a barrel fit a key so you can stick with one key for all locks. There aren't that many different tumblers, it' just the arrangement inside.  :y
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Re: Cant get steering lock off... Help please
« Reply #12 on: 27 November 2010, 22:15:12 »

sorry to tell you after you have broken your barrell.but this is a common fault on all vauxhall cars.when extreme temprature changes happen e.g gets very hot or cold weather the very bottom on the barrel locks up so that the key wont go all the way in.i.ve called loads of auto locksmiths out and they remove the end of the barrel and lubricate it.ps im a aa recovery patrol :D
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Re: Cant get steering lock off... Help please
« Reply #13 on: 28 November 2010, 15:15:37 »

it is something i hadnt come across before, will be reconditioning the new barrel before it goes in, is it really easy to make barrel fit key as i can get barrel for 10 but whole set is 45 quid??
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Re: Cant get steering lock off... Help please
« Reply #14 on: 28 November 2010, 15:55:21 »

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it is something i hadnt come across before, will be reconditioning the new barrel before it goes in, is it really easy to make barrel fit key as i can get barrel for 10 but whole set is 45 quid??

As said, there are only so many different tumbers that can be fitted inside a barrel, it's just the various permutations of them that gives the different locks. You might be able to salvage some of your old tumblers and along with those inside A N Other barrel you should be able to match up a set of tumbers to fit your existing key. Don't drop the tiny springs, you'll never find them again.  ;D ;D ;D
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