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Re: what figures can i expect with chipping 2.5td
« Reply #15 on: 18 September 2010, 21:28:55 »

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Blank the EGR, easy bit of an increase, I have removed most of the piping from mine too (I used some of the piping the seal the exhaust end...  I need to remove the plunger from the intake end still, but worth an extra 3-5 bhp, for the cost of a small metal plate...  The chip in mine reckons to increase the power to 170 bhp, I hadn't thought about the "fixing" the IC fan, could be worth a bit too...

I don't see the point of the rolling road tbh, just to get an accurate idea of where the engine is...  I get enough fun embarassing the boy racers in there muppet motors trying to race away from the traffic lights...

i have already blacked egr and removed all its piping and welded up exhaust end, cat and middle silencer are removed an replaced with stainless and have plans for back box :y wanna wire up the IC fan aswel
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Re: what figures can i expect with chipping 2.5td
« Reply #16 on: 18 September 2010, 23:13:06 »

Yeah, I noticed when read your thread in the piccies section...  It has set me thinking on what to do next on mine...
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Re: what figures can i expect with chipping 2.5td
« Reply #17 on: 18 September 2010, 23:44:19 »

I do covet a propane injection kit, but, the pennies at the moment are a little tight and they do run a few...  Add about another 100bhp and a good amount of extra torque too... 
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Re: what figures can i expect with chipping 2.5td
« Reply #18 on: 19 September 2010, 00:01:52 »



Can someone post a how to for the IC fan modification ??
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Re: what figures can i expect with chipping 2.5td
« Reply #19 on: 19 September 2010, 11:53:34 »

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Can someone post a how to for the IC fan modification ??
          i'll work on it  :D
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Re: what figures can i expect with chipping 2.5td
« Reply #20 on: 19 September 2010, 15:42:26 »

did mine so long ago(5 years ) its difficult to remember,
however basically i put a spare air con switch(pic of a fan on it lol) in the dash, to a relay in the engine compartment and powered the ic fan via the relay, the light on the switch tells me its on, its all on a 20amp fuse inline, and on tech 1 i can watch the inlet temps come plummeting down when its switched on, and feel the difference when hitting the throttle, strangely enough it als helps when your off boost, i.e below 1400rpm it actually pulls quite well where the td normally is flat, however the downside(if you can call it that lol) is the ecu reads the inlet temps(on early ones like mine) and thinks the engine is cold so chucks more fuel in ;D and it pulls like stink!!! complete with a little bit of smoke out the pipes!! lol hope that helps :y

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Re: what figures can i expect with chipping 2.5td
« Reply #21 on: 19 September 2010, 19:03:39 »



That certainly helps, now I know what's involved, but I would need more detail on how to wire up the relay, where do you take the power from to feed the fan/the switch. In other words an idiot guide.  :-[
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Re: what figures can i expect with chipping 2.5td
« Reply #22 on: 19 September 2010, 20:18:54 »

damnit this is the second time i have typed all this it took me 20 mins and pressed post and the damned internet connection had fallen out!! couldnt retrieve the post even in history so here we go again!!
now you must remember im getting old and  fragile and have far to many senior moments  ;D
but basicaly here is an idiots memory guide to wiring up the i.c fan,
as said i used a aircon switch as it fitted nicely in the dash so looked original, power for the switch came from the live ignition controlled radio wire as it was very close, then ran a wire through the bulkhead and up to the ecu box where i inserted a standard relay in the spare space there, the switch only switches the relay so needs no huge current, then ran a wire from the battery through a standard blade fuse again inserted into the fuse holder so it looks factory fit, to the relay, switched side of the relay ran  wire across the front of the car under the fan cover at the front and across to the i.c. side just above the i.c is a rather convenient hole in the inner wing so went down through that to the i.c., then soldered into the original i.c wires,
after making sure the i.c fan worked with this arrangement i then cut the original wres and ran a seperate earth as i was worried about the cooling fans being backfed by the new switched control, this way there was no chance of that happening, this system ran for just over 5 years of almost continuos running (hot here is spain) before the fan motor finally cried enough, replaced it about a month ago whith one from the scrappy which had done no work as it was seized because of the stupid way, vaux controlled it, i.e not being switched on til the engine temp hot almost 100degrees, 5 mins work freed it off, then a ten minute run continously saw it nice and free, I always make a point of switching the i.c. fan on when ever i use the car, to prevent it siezing up again, as the rubber shroud directs all the crap and salt direct onto the fan in the winter its most important!!, ok while you under there you will note the i.c is very close(touching) the wheelarch protector which means there is nowhere for the fan to blow the hot ar out except against the protector!! so a few well chosen drill holes here will help expell the hot air from the i.c!! i started with just ten directly behind the i.c but increased it by a few more later, I could plug tech1 in and drive down the road and watch the inlet emps plummet with the fan switched on and feel the difference in performance!!! strangely enough cos the ecu reads the inlet temps on the early ones like mine, when you are off boost i.e below 1500rpm the ecu see cold temps and increases the fueliing so helps the low down torque!!
so there you have it :y
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Re: what figures can i expect with chipping 2.5td
« Reply #23 on: 19 September 2010, 20:48:07 »

Thank you sir, you are a star.  :y  Even I could understand this, very clearly explained. Shame you had to type it twice.   :(

Nice little project for me over the next couple of weeks. I also have a spare where the AC switch would be.   :y :y

Apologies to Dervdoc for hijacking his thread.  :-[

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Re: what figures can i expect with chipping 2.5td
« Reply #24 on: 19 September 2010, 21:14:45 »

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Thank you sir, you are a star.  :y  Even I could understand this, very clearly explained. Shame you had to type it twice.   :(

Nice little project for me over the next couple of weeks. I also have a spare where the AC switch would be.   :y :y

Apologies to Dervdoc for hijacking his thread.  :-[


welcome buddy, just reread it and dont forget you will need to wire the ac switch up so the light comes on when its switched on!! otherwise its all to easy to forget its on!!! and of course you only want it on when you need a burst of extra horses or are about to climb a large hill, etc :y
my apologies to dervdoc also!!

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Re: what figures can i expect with chipping 2.5td
« Reply #25 on: 19 September 2010, 21:40:54 »

not worry guys this greatly helps my mission to pull 180bhp from the big O. i will be doing this within the next week so will take lots of pics and get it posted up for a ''how to''
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Re: what figures can i expect with chipping 2.5td
« Reply #26 on: 29 November 2010, 18:51:37 »

well getting back on track now with the omega, if all goes to plan i'll be chippin her this weekend, have started on the ic fan mod and will be sending the diff of within this nxt few weeks to have my lsd built in  [smiley=2vrolijk_08.gif] anyone have any rollin road figure yet from chipping ther 2.5td
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