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[griff2494]

hi there

can exhaust gases some how escape into the coolant??
if so i assume this means hgf ?
where would it have gone if so for it to do this?i no normaly it would be either water going into the oil or vica versa

if it is hgf wheres best to buy from? dealer or is there a uprated one?
how much do they cost?

cheers

[Welung666]

Do your radiator hoses get very hard to squeeze when the engine has been running? IME the normal fail point on the 2.2 HG is #4 to the rear waterway.

Dependant on where you are one of the regular repairers on here could change it for you

[griff2494]

yes the pipes seem to get solid ,if it is hgf i should be ok to do my self ,which is good as im out in germany right now with work

could it be anything else?? or more than def hgf

also wheres best to get one from? what kind of price should i be looking at for the kit

[Welung666]

99% certainly HG. I only ever use Payen head gasket sets for the Desmonds (2.2's). Daft as it sounds have a look on eGay, several genuine Payen sets on there at the moment

[edit]TO ADD - You need a set of head bolts as well as they are stretch bolts.[/edit]

[tunnie]

not uncommon for head gasket failure on 2.2, main cause is poor coolant servicing! Have you had a compression test done? Assume you are loosing coolant?

[PhilRich]

Here's mine (done early this year). As said pot no. 4 is the usual culprit. I bought my gasket from the main dealer (£14+ iirc?) Got the bolts from Trechii on e-bay. Total cost including head skim, all gaskets/bolts/studs etc came to around £150 but that included a garage creeper & a few other tools as well 

[griff2494]

thinking about it i have a compresion tester (fits in the spark plugs,is that the right one?)

if so what kind of reading should i be looking for??
and hould i do it with 3 of the 4 plugs still in or all plugs out when i do a test???

[griff2494]

also if i do the test and it shows a problem will i need to have the head skimmed?

as far as i no its never over boiled etc ,so does the head need skim?i assume the head is alloy?

also seeing theres no water in the oil or visa versa would i need to totaly flush the oil etc

cheers

[tunnie]

if it did not over-heat then no real need to get it Skimmed, compression test should have similar readings across all 4 pots (yes it does plug into spark plug holes) - Normally 2.2 HG fails around pot 4 

[PhilRich]

Griff, you have a PM mate 

[trem]

griff my sisters car a pug106 1.1 with the tu3 engine, the head gasket went a few weeks ago, no coolant in oil, no oil in coolant, but massive pressure in coolant system and unable to bleed at all, it blew the expansion bottle cap off.  it cost my sister £20 for parts and lots of coffee . it had gone on number 4 cylinder between the pot and coolin system. 

so from the problems your havin i would say defo head gasket.

[Andy H]

Early stage head gasket failure (ie before any noticeable coolant loss occurs) probably won't show up on a compression test.

If you leave it until the gasket fails totally the hot gases may damage the cylinder head such that it does requires a skim.

[griff2494]

 
yep your all correct :-( hg def def gone!!!!

went out for a hr to garage today ,was going to check the compression,but thought if i checked the breather pipes first before i did that ,that would also give me a good idea if the hg had gone

this is what i found :-(
top pipe that goes from rocker cover to the air intake


as you can see mayo every where 
so next the tb
thank god no mayo but its def in sh.t state :-(

(when i do the gasket i will get the carb cleaner on it)
next was the main oil breather 



 :(never seen so much mayo ! and im a chef!!!!!!! pmsl
very strange though as still no mayo in the header,oil filler neck nore on the dip stick

[tunnie]

actually thats not bad, in fact its normal for short runs! Don't just go on that just for HG. Condensation forms in those pipes, mixed with oil turns to mayo.

To check if it really is HG, do a compression test 

[griff2494]

right next prob is nearly xmas ,im over in germany so i think the chance of getting the parts from ebay over here in time to do the head over xmas leave is a no no

so am i best to go direct to vauxhall/opel for the parts or a auto factor (i only no one over here and he is very £££££££s :-(
aslo hes what i think i will need please advise me

1. head gasket set (all gaskets)
2. new stretch bolts
3. cam locking tool (i assume the rover one i have will not work?)
4. new cam belt ? (cars done 82000miles and ive seen no proof its ever had it done)
5. new tensioners
6. new thermostae
7. more anti freeze and oil
8. maybe a engine flush ?? any ideas?

clean out all pipe work some how ?