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Next MoT: Rear Springs (Self-Levelling) - How Much
« on: 26 December 2010, 12:57:01 »

Having just paid nearly £400 for a full service (NOT at Vx before anyone asks!) I was advised that the rear n/s spring has a cracked top coil - maybe explains why the car aims to the left and need almost constant, but tiny, correction. Naturally this would need to be replaced for the next MoT.

Reading through the forums here I note that the self-levelling springs need to be replaced with the same type, either GM or KYB (please correct me if I've got this wrong) and obviously both sides should be done at the same time.

Looking at various how-to-do-it sections, this seems a fairly involved job but also would involve a fair amount of equipment, i.e. serious jack to get the back end up, axle stands, spring compressors, torque wrench and probably other kit - none of which I happen to already possess. There seemed to be an awful lot of disconnecting going on - mentions of dropping exhaust, removing/disconnecting sensors... anyway, way beyond my skill-set so would be having to pay to have this done thereby factoring in labour and the (increased) VAT rates.

I gather the springs themselves are pricey - does anyone have a figure for them please?

Another option I've read - although not one that I'm keen on - is to disconnect/disable the self-levelling aspect and fit conventional springs. Is this in any way financially viable or even desirable?
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Re: Next MoT: Rear Springs (Self-Levelling) - How Much
« Reply #1 on: 26 December 2010, 13:48:48 »

KYB springs are I think part number RJ 6227. Try Buypartsby or other outfits on the Internet for prices for a pair.

When I have jacked the back end of mine up with the std car jack the spring just about comes out with the shocker disconnected. Mind you you would want to have the whel under the sill at a bare minimum for "security".

If your self levelling system works, and the shockers are fine then I would recomend keeping the system.
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Re: Next MoT: Rear Springs (Self-Levelling) - How Much
« Reply #2 on: 26 December 2010, 17:41:33 »

Cracked? Or broken maybe?

There is a guide in maintanance, with kyb part number visible on the spring iirc. About 90 sobs by the time theiy are delivered.

Ime broken rear spring won't affect pulling on the steering at the front, but I guess it could of a good prtion of spring is missing. So see the handling guide also.

This next bit is unproven, but myself and others have fitted firmer springs with self level shocks, there where no issues with operation over the 9months a had that set up. Others on here have had  stock springs fitted for a couple of years with no Ill effect, but be aware only long term ownership will show any issues.
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Re: Next MoT: Rear Springs (Self-Levelling) - How Much
« Reply #4 on: 27 December 2010, 12:32:21 »

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Cracked? Or broken maybe?

There is a guide in maintanance, with kyb part number visible on the spring iirc. About 90 sobs by the time theiy are delivered.

Ime broken rear spring won't affect pulling on the steering at the front, but I guess it could of a good prtion of spring is missing. So see the handling guide also.

This next bit is unproven, but myself and others have fitted firmer springs with self level shocks, there where no issues with operation over the 9months a had that set up. Others on here have had  stock springs fitted for a couple of years with no Ill effect, but be aware only long term ownership will show any issues.

According to report the garage said the top coil was cracked but advised that said top coil was only held in place and not still attached to the rest of the spring.

It had occurred to me that shocks would be of the same age as the springs and perhaps should be done whilst things are disconnected and accessible. Also bushes? Have seen a guide showing "doughnut bushes" and this looks like a good afternoon's work in itself.

I also had the thought of getting slightly lowering springs fitted (although this would probably mean all four being done together) to reduce gaps in arches and hopefully firm up the cornering a little.

Do MV6 springs: 1) give a firmer ride?
                       2) fit in a self-levelling system?

Given that others have had standard springs fitted without documented issues then that was a possibility also.
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