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Re: front brake pads
« Reply #15 on: 18 February 2011, 15:49:08 »

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It seems that traditionally they are fitted to piston side Andy but can be fitted to all pads if you so wish. Definately on piston side on mine. Big round circle on shim gave me a clue.  ;D :y

Is this link of any use.

http://www.ebcbrakes.com/brake_noise/noise_shims_brake_pads_bed_in.shtml

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I found that link too.  ;)

Piston side was how I'd fitted them the last time, but as they were squealing like a stuck pig I was just after other opinions.  :y :y

Previous sets of TC pads also had a direction of rotation one of them too. That seems to have been discontinued.  :-/
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Re: front brake pads
« Reply #16 on: 18 February 2011, 23:04:20 »

Put EBC "Green Stuff" pads on 'em (like moi!) ;)

Expensive yes - but what a difference in performance, and much less dust too.
You know that I don't 'skimp' Andy - only the best for our TD mate! ;D
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Re: front brake pads
« Reply #17 on: 18 February 2011, 23:06:24 »

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Put EBC "Green Stuff" pads on 'em (like moi!) ;)

Expensive yes - but what a difference in performance, and much less dust too.
You know that I don't 'skimp' Andy - only the best for our TD mate! ;D

mine were TC's finest.  :y :y :y
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Re: front brake pads
« Reply #18 on: 19 February 2011, 00:32:39 »

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It seems that traditionally they are fitted to piston side Andy but can be fitted to all pads if you so wish. Definately on piston side on mine. Big round circle on shim gave me a clue.  ;D :y

Is this link of any use.

http://www.ebcbrakes.com/brake_noise/noise_shims_brake_pads_bed_in.shtml

Regards
Alan

I found that link too.  ;)

Piston side was how I'd fitted them the last time, but as they were squealing like a stuck pig I was just after other opinions.  :y :y

Previous sets of TC pads also had a direction of rotation one of them too. That seems to have been discontinued.  :-/
Yes i noticed that.i'm sure there has been a dumbing down on tc pad spec. How do you find the pedal feel?

And as TB says re the shimmed side to caliper imo. But as said previosly i dont think it makes much odds.

Only other thing to look for is that the pads seat flat in the back of the caliper and on the piston face so they cant osilate/rock. If they wobble under brake pressure they'll osilate at high frequency and squeal like hell on earth.
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Re: front brake pads
« Reply #19 on: 19 February 2011, 00:37:51 »

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Yes i noticed that.i'm sure there has been a dumbing down on tc pad spec. How do you find the pedal feel?

And as TB says re the shimmed side to caliper imo. But as said previosly i dont think it makes much odds.

Only other thing to look for is that the pads seat flat in the back of the caliper and on the piston face so they cant osilate/rock. If they wobble under brake pressure they'll osilate at high frequency and squeal like hell on earth.

I've never had any problem with TC pads, but I've never bought 'real' Vx pads to compare them with.
I started on my cam cover gaskets before I test drove it so can't tell you what they feel like now.  ;)
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Re: front brake pads
« Reply #20 on: 19 February 2011, 00:46:42 »

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Yes i noticed that.i'm sure there has been a dumbing down on tc pad spec. How do you find the pedal feel?

And as TB says re the shimmed side to caliper imo. But as said previosly i dont think it makes much odds.

Only other thing to look for is that the pads seat flat in the back of the caliper and on the piston face so they cant osilate/rock. If they wobble under brake pressure they'll osilate at high frequency and squeal like hell on earth.

I've never had any problem with TC pads, but I've never bought 'real' Vx pads to compare them with.
I started on my cam cover gaskets before I test drove it so can't tell you what they feel like now.  ;)
The set in my current car, 60k miles 03, are not oe/look like tc pads but the feel is not far off oe levels.
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Re: front brake pads
« Reply #21 on: 19 February 2011, 00:53:32 »

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The set in my current car, 60k miles 03, are not oe/look like tc pads but the feel is not far off oe levels.

I'll let you know in a few hundred miles.

I really must use my Omega more. I tried to go to work in it last Sunday but the battery was flatter than a very flat thing. Hey Ho!  ;) :y
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Re: front brake pads
« Reply #22 on: 27 November 2013, 21:14:09 »

Did you come to any definitave conclustion on this? Shims to piston or caliper side?

Whilst waiting for Vx to cough up the bits for the cam belt I decided to fit a set of TC pads tonight. Opened the box to find two pads with shims, and two without. I thought "that's strange" so opened a second box (got 2 sets from the dealer for £5 each at their last clearout) - exactly the same two - with, two without. So I took a 50-50 punt and fitted the shimmed pad piston side.

Car is still up in the air with wheels off, so dead easy for me to change at this stage.
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Re: front brake pads
« Reply #23 on: 27 November 2013, 21:18:45 »

Did you come to any definitave conclustion on this? Shims to piston or caliper side?

Whilst waiting for Vx to cough up the bits for the cam belt I decided to fit a set of TC pads tonight. Opened the box to find two pads with shims, and two without. I thought "that's strange" so opened a second box (got 2 sets from the dealer for £5 each at their last clearout) - exactly the same two - with, two without. So I took a 50-50 punt and fitted the shimmed pad piston side.

Car is still up in the air with wheels off, so dead easy for me to change at this stage.

Good god Malc ........ how old is this post?  ;D I have trouble remembering what I had for breakfast this morning!  ;) ;) ;)

No idea now Malc, I really can't remember ...... sorry!
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Re: front brake pads
« Reply #24 on: 27 November 2013, 21:23:06 »

Good God yet another old post resurrected ::)

If by shim you mean the rubber backing on the pad this should be fitted caliper side not piston side ;)
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Re: front brake pads
« Reply #25 on: 27 November 2013, 21:30:33 »

I've always found that one pad has a bloody great spring clip welded to whilst the other does not :-\

Oddly, the clip only fits the piston side ::)

Actually that might have been a Vectra C ::)
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Re: front brake pads
« Reply #26 on: 27 November 2013, 21:39:50 »

Good God yet another old post resurrected ::)

Not much point having a search function? I had the same question, and there was no definitive answer last time   :-\

If by shim you mean the rubber backing on the pad this should be fitted caliper side not piston side ;)

LC pads generally have rubber backs/shims on both inboard and outboard pads, and the calipers have pistons inboard and outboard. So I guessed the ribber/shim went piston side. Glad I asked now  :)
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Re: front brake pads
« Reply #27 on: 27 November 2013, 21:40:56 »

I've always found that one pad has a bloody great spring clip welded to whilst the other does not :-\

Oddly, the clip only fits the piston side ::)

? ? - not on TC pads mate ???
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Re: front brake pads
« Reply #28 on: 27 November 2013, 21:42:20 »

Good God yet another old post resurrected ::)

Not much point having a search function? I had the same question, and there was no definitive answer last time   :-\

If by shim you mean the rubber backing on the pad this should be fitted caliper side not piston side ;)

LC pads generally have rubber backs/shims on both inboard and outboard pads, and the calipers have pistons inboard and outboard. So I guessed the ribber/shim went piston side. Glad I asked now  :)

Start a new post then ;)

What are LC pads?  Lotus Carlton?
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Re: front brake pads
« Reply #29 on: 27 November 2013, 21:51:09 »

Start a new post then ;)

Ok if that's how you do it round here. Most other fora that I'm on encourage you to keep the same question in one thread.

What are LC pads?  Lotus Carlton?

Yes.

Not 100% sure yet, but endevours may not have been in vain. Got a feeling my one year old wishbones have FUBAR rear bushes.
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