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[smokingomega]

hi. Has anyone ever put a uprated clutch in? I'm wanting to put a better one in as i tow a lot an the cheap clutch i have in now slips when it gets a bit warm. There is a place in leeds that will recon my disc with kevlar racing kit which he says will make it a lot better. Has anyone had  any  experience  with these

[Andy B]

hi. Has anyone ever put a uprated clutch in? I'm wanting to put a better one in as i tow a lot an the cheap clutch i have in now slips when it gets a bit warm.  ......

Diseasal+towing = a two pedal car 

[smokingomega]

one problem with that is 2.5 td tractor will ripauto  box to bits unless it's the 35.

[Kevin Wood]

If the current clutch is a "cheap" one would it not be better to try a better quality standard part before going through the pain of trying to modify things?

I am sure the standard clutch would have been plenty man enough for the job even when towing.

Kevin

[smokingomega]

it's only 40 pound to uprate my old clutch. Better than 200 for a new clutch.

[Julian James]

Never heard of that before.  Didn't know you could "upgrade" a clutch plate.  If you do it, let me know how it goes...   I've tried looking for performance clutches and there's a distinct lack of performance parts in general for the Omega.  :/

[Andy B]

..... and there's a distinct lack of performance parts in general for the Omega.  :/

maybe because you don't get 1700kg performance cars. 

[Julian James]

lol true.
does it really weigh that much?  thought it was a little less...  interesting

[serek]

lol true.
does it really weigh that much?  thought it was a little less...  interesting

its more then 1700 kgs with driver and full tank of fuel

[smokingomega]

Never heard of that before.  Didn't know you could "upgrade" a clutch plate.  If you do it, let me know how it goes...   I've tried looking for performance clutches and there's a distinct lack of performance parts in general for the Omega.  :/

I was told basiclly that if I take him my old disc he will re do it with a Kevlar racing material, He could also upgrade the springs in my plate though that would be a extra cost.
When I have looked in the past there are a few American places that do upgrades for towing vehicles an they do the same.
I`ll let you know what its like when I change it. Might be a few weeks yet though before I get chance

[Kevin Wood]

The problem is - do we know what the problem is with the current clutch?

I could imagine a couple of issues which might cause an otherwise sound clutch to slip:

Poor friction material on driven plate
Surfaces of flywheel / clutch pressure plate glazed
Oil / coolant contamination
Insufficient clamping force from pressure plate
Actuating mechanism not releasing fully

and so on..

Replacing the friction material will only correct the first in the list, and only then if the kevlar offers a higher coefficient of friction than the current material. It could well be that this material is superior only in that it will withstand a higher temperature, for example. I don't know.

If it's got to come apart anyway, I would be addressing all the possible causes while it's apart rather than adding another unknown (non-standard friction material).

Kevin

[smokingomega]

it only starts to slip when i have been shunting the caravan or trailer around the yard. There is a bit of a slight incline an when i'm reversing the van up slowly on an off the clutch it begins to slip. I let it cool down ten minutes an it is good to go again. I could leave it in an it would be fine but i want it to be better when i'm towing. I stripped it down about a year ago to put this cheap clutch in and there were no other problems like you listed

[Omegatoy]

Never heard of that before.  Didn't know you could "upgrade" a clutch plate.  If you do it, let me know how it goes...   I've tried looking for performance clutches and there's a distinct lack of performance parts in general for the Omega.  :/

I was told basiclly that if I take him my old disc he will re do it with a Kevlar racing material, He could also upgrade the springs in my plate though that would be a extra cost.
When I have looked in the past there are a few American places that do upgrades for towing vehicles an they do the same.
I`ll let you know what its like when I change it. Might be a few weeks yet though before I get chance

first off your plate aint got springs!!!so i would question this guys expertise, and i would not want a refurbed plate from past experience(bad) usually balance problems
on mine i just put a 3litre v6 plate in it fits just in the flywheel, and over the last
56k including towing a twin axle van all over spain has never given me a moments trouble, still going strong

[smokingomega]

Never heard of that before.  Didn't know you could "upgrade" a clutch plate.  If you do it, let me know how it goes...   I've tried looking for performance clutches and there's a distinct lack of performance parts in general for the Omega.  :/

I was told basiclly that if I take him my old disc he will re do it with a Kevlar racing material, He could also upgrade the springs in my plate though that would be a extra cost.
When I have looked in the past there are a few American places that do upgrades for towing vehicles an they do the same.
I`ll let you know what its like when I change it. Might be a few weeks yet though before I get chance

first off your plate aint got springs!!!so i would question this guys expertise, and i would not want a refurbed plate from past experience(bad) usually balance problems
on mine i just put a 3litre v6 plate in it fits just in the flywheel, and over the last
56k including towing a twin axle van all over spain has never given me a moments trouble, still going strong

I thought the forks on the plate were springs that pull the the plate tight up to the disc and flywheel? When the clutch is pressed the release bearing pushes the forks and dissengages the gearbox from the engine unless it is a pull type clutch and then it pulls the forks to dissengage??

3.0 V6 clutch sound a good idea.

The bloke who does the clutches, He has 30 years experience making them for rally cars, I know a few people who have had suburu`s giving out 350+ bhp an they have had clutches done by him

[Omegatoy]

Never heard of that before.  Didn't know you could "upgrade" a clutch plate.  If you do it, let me know how it goes...   I've tried looking for performance clutches and there's a distinct lack of performance parts in general for the Omega.  :/

I was told basiclly that if I take him my old disc he will re do it with a Kevlar racing material, He could also upgrade the springs in my plate though that would be a extra cost.
When I have looked in the past there are a few American places that do upgrades for towing vehicles an they do the same.
I`ll let you know what its like when I change it. Might be a few weeks yet though before I get chance

first off your plate aint got springs!!!so i would question this guys expertise, and i would not want a refurbed plate from past experience(bad) usually balance problems
on mine i just put a 3litre v6 plate in it fits just in the flywheel, and over the last
56k including towing a twin axle van all over spain has never given me a moments trouble, still going strong

I thought the forks on the plate were springs that pull the the plate tight up to the disc and flywheel? When the clutch is pressed the release bearing pushes the forks and dissengages the gearbox from the engine unless it is a pull type clutch and then it pulls the forks to dissengage??

3.0 V6 clutch sound a good idea.

The bloke who does the clutches, He has 30 years experience making them for rally cars, I know a few people who have had suburu`s giving out 350+ bhp an they have had clutches done by him

the n he should have known you have a dual mass flywheel(DMF) WHICH USES A FLAT CLUTCH PLATE WITH NO SPRINGS IN IT, the springs are replaced by the two piece flywheel which allows a slight amount of give to remove the judder,and give a smoother system, its debateable whether or not its better than the old system with springs in the clutch plate itself, its certainly more expensive when it dies!
as said 3 litre clutch bolts straight in takes around 2 hours to do if you have the tools and the knowledge, and assuming your DMF is serviceable!!