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First day of usage. First breakdown
« on: 22 February 2011, 21:34:19 »

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Swapped the insurance over to the Omega today, and off I went to work.

Having previously (but briefly) had a 2.5 GLS Omega estate on demo, this 2.6 didn't feel anywhere near as quick as I remembered them being. Not that I was thrashing it, I hardly used any more than 1/4 throttle, but there just wasn't the urgancy there that I remembered there being.

25 miles later and the emission fault light starts flashing.

I did the old pedal / fault reading trick, and came up with the following codes;

"P0560 System Voltage High Input
P0560 System Voltage Low Input
P0560 System voltage malfunction"

"P0325 Knock sensor 1 circuit high input (Bank 1 or single sensor)
P0325 Knock sensor 1 circuit low input (Bank 1 or single sensor) "

"P1614 Wrong Transponder Key Immobiliser
P1614 Immobiliser Wrong Signal Received Immobiliser
P1614 Immobiliser NotProgrammed Immobiliser""

"P0300 Random/multiple cylinder misfire detected"

"P0306 Cylinder 6 Misfire Detected"

After leaving the car 10-15 minutes with the engine off, I re-started and this time the emissions light didn't flash but stayed on continually. I then drove very slowly and carefully the 5-6 miles back home.

Tickover was at about 600rpm, and it felt to me like it was running on four cylinders.

The car cannot be locked / unlocked by the remote as the battery is flat. When I do unlock the car by the key the hazard warning lights flash untill I start the engine.


So, do you chaps have any idea what exactly I should be looking for here? I've seen code 0560 in the last few weeks as I've been working on the car, but I suspected that that was down to a knackered battery, which today was changed for a new one. No usual signs of altinator failure, (ie; wipers on a go-slow, lights dimming, struggling to start, etc).
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Re: First day of usage. First breakdown
« Reply #1 on: 22 February 2011, 21:39:20 »

check kevin woods alternator/battery guide first
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Re: First day of usage. First breakdown
« Reply #2 on: 22 February 2011, 21:39:20 »

It dosent sound healthy to me :-?
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Re: First day of usage. First breakdown
« Reply #3 on: 22 February 2011, 21:40:48 »

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check kevin woods alternator/battery guide first

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Re: First day of usage. First breakdown
« Reply #4 on: 22 February 2011, 21:42:53 »

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It dosent sound healthy to me :-?

Please man, don't say that! I've spent nearly as much in parts as I did do on the car.

I had the vehicle valeted earlier today, (inc jetwashed). I'm wondering if some water has got into the area of dis-pac where I slightly damaged the edging getting it off to change the plugs?
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Re: First day of usage. First breakdown
« Reply #5 on: 22 February 2011, 21:47:39 »

See kevs guide on testing battery/alternater. But yes probably due to flat battery issue.

Knock sensor, check the wire is not damaged or broken and that ist connected coreectly, cable runs down by alternater from cable tray accross the cam cover.

Imob, check the chp is seated correctly in the key.

The flashing indicaters on start up is the alarm activating, except its silent due to removed poweer sounder???... And is tripped, quite normally believe it or not, because the car has been unlocked with the key because the blipper battery is flat.

You have a missfir on cylinder 6. Pas side rear pot. Remove coil pac and check for damage, rust oil etc change the plugs while your there imo. If rust/water present check the windscreen seal to scuttle is seated correctly on the screen? Was it raining at the time?
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Re: First day of usage. First breakdown
« Reply #6 on: 22 February 2011, 21:49:00 »

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It dosent sound healthy to me :-?

Please man, don't say that! I've spent nearly as much in parts as I did do on the car.

I had the vehicle valeted earlier today, (inc jetwashed). I'm wondering if some water has got into the area of dis-pac where I slightly damaged the edging getting it off to change the plugs?

See the tip on removing coil pacs in maintanance.
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Re: First day of usage. First breakdown
« Reply #7 on: 22 February 2011, 21:49:25 »

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See kevs guide on testing battery/alternater. But yes probably due to flat battery issue.

Knock sensor, check the wire is not damaged or broken and that ist connected coreectly, cable runs down by alternater from cable tray accross the cam cover.

Imob, check the chp is seated correctly in the key.

The flashing indicaters on start up is the alarm activating, except its silent due to removed poweer sounder???... And is tripped, quite normally believe it or not, because the car has been unlocked with the key because the blipper battery is flat.

You have a missfir on cylinder 6. Pas side rear pot. Remove coil pac and check for damage, rust oil etc change the plugs while your there imo. If rust/water present check the windscreen seal to scuttle is seated correctly on the screen? Was it raining at the time?
*cough* you mean shagged horn *cough* ;)
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Re: First day of usage. First breakdown
« Reply #8 on: 22 February 2011, 21:55:37 »

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See kevs guide on testing battery/alternater. But yes probably due to flat battery issue.

Knock sensor, check the wire is not damaged or broken and that ist connected coreectly, cable runs down by alternater from cable tray accross the cam cover.

Imob, check the chp is seated correctly in the key.

The flashing indicaters on start up is the alarm activating, except its silent due to removed poweer sounder???... And is tripped, quite normally believe it or not, because the car has been unlocked with the key because the blipper battery is flat.

You have a missfir on cylinder 6. Pas side rear pot. Remove coil pac and check for damage, rust oil etc change the plugs while your there imo. If rust/water present check the windscreen seal to scuttle is seated correctly on the screen? Was it raining at the time?
*cough* you mean shagged horn *cough* ;)
Ah yes, my horn was shagged as well, never heard it once during the life of the car. Not checked this car ("omega black")
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Re: First day of usage. First breakdown
« Reply #9 on: 22 February 2011, 22:00:54 »

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Ah yes, my horn was shagged as well, never heard it once during the life of the car. Not checked this car ("omega black")
Common fault - both mine have suffered it.
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Re: First day of usage. First breakdown
« Reply #10 on: 22 February 2011, 22:01:19 »

The Boy & Chris, as always, thank you both very much.

So, this isn't sounding 'too bad' then?

As you know I've changed the cam cover gaskets, and as I'm quite OCD-ish I'm pretty certain that I haven't trapped any wires.

What I did do, on the passanger side, and at the rear most pot, was damage the black rubber shroud that covers the spark plug. This ended up being quite chewed up. (picture below);





And the old plug from that pot looked worse than the others;



So if I get the key programmed and replace the damaged shroud then I should be ok?

You guys are great, and I certainly owe a few of you a drink, (which I hope to buy you one day soon)  :)
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Re: First day of usage. First breakdown
« Reply #11 on: 22 February 2011, 22:01:44 »

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I had the vehicle valeted earlier today ....

 ..... and having doors open for hours won't have helped a struggling battery.  :y
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Re: First day of usage. First breakdown
« Reply #12 on: 22 February 2011, 22:04:38 »

Some of those fault codes might be old - the no6 misfire and the transponder ones in particular
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Re: First day of usage. First breakdown
« Reply #13 on: 22 February 2011, 22:06:31 »

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I had the vehicle valeted earlier today ....

 ..... and having doors open for hours won't have helped a struggling battery.  :y

This is what I cant understand Andy  :-?

I used a booster pack to start it at my house, then drove straight to Halfords for a battery (540amps, £54 with trade card).

I had the car valeted after having the new battery fitted, and not once today have I noticed any of the usual signs of a weak battery.

I haven't got a multimeter though, so I cant check it  :(
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Re: First day of usage. First breakdown
« Reply #14 on: 22 February 2011, 22:08:15 »

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Some of those fault codes might be old - the no6 misfire and the transponder ones in particular

It's definatly missing TB. Running on four cylinders I reckon.

Is it possible to clear the fault codes at home, so that only new or current ones show?
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