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miggy

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« on: 24 January 2008, 18:37:17 »

Picture this

It is 10.00pm on a Saturday night, and you go to pick up your daughter from her friends..you pick her up and on the way back home you have to drive through a suburb at 11.00pm..this area has pubs on each side of the road and they are all turning out, there are people crossing the road in crowds, people milling about the area,all full of beer. You know the area and drop your speed from 30mph to approximately 20 - 25mph because you can see all the well intoxicated people about.

As you are approaching a pub on your left hand side that is situated approximately 4 foot from the kerb edge, you see 2 girls run out of the doorway of the pub and 1 of them runs into the road, you have anticipated what she is about to do and start to brake and sound your horn, there is nothing coming towards you so you manover your car towards the centre white line, you are in full control, because of your actions the girl runs into the side of your car by the passenger side, the door mirror spins her around and she falls to the floor, as she falls to the floor her leg goes under the back wheel and causes a broken leg. You stop your car approximately 4 yards past where she impacted on the door, pull onto the left of the road, switch off you engine,turn on the hazards and as you get out you tell your wife to lock the doors and call for the emeggancy services. You run to the injured girl and try to comfort her, she is so drunk she does not feel any pain.

The traffic police arrive along with the local beat police, the beat police breathalise you and you pass as you have had no alcohol that day.

The beat police take statements off everyone. The traffic police walk around your car, check the tax and tyres, get into their car and drive away.

You then get up on the Sunday, inform you insurance company and produce your documents to the local police station, job done, all ok, away you go. You then get a letter from the police saying there is no further action to be taken by them.

12 months later you get a letter from the solicitor acting for the injured girl, this letter states, you did not stop, you did not brake in time, you mounted the kerb and you were speeding and a load of other accusations.

The insurance contact your witnesses, 4 of them, they all state exactly what is above, ie you are not at fault.

Another 6 months later you get a visit from your insurance companies solicitor, he needs to take other statements from you as the incident is going to court, and he informs you that even though you were not at fault the court could go her way, this could cost you 3 points and a fine, and lose your no claims.

The above is what happend to me, and the solicitor came to my home today.

If what was said to me happens i will lose ALL faith in the system and i dont think its right that i should be punished for something that clearly states, she ran into me, and if it was not for my quick response she could have gone over the bonnet, sustaining more injuries.

Wheres the justice in that.

Sorry for the length of the post but what are your thoughts.

 >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
« Last Edit: 24 January 2008, 18:41:27 by miggy »
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« Reply #1 on: 24 January 2008, 18:44:09 »

Hi
You are being treated terribly by the "system" but that is what this country is coming to, I am afraid it is the "compensation culture" which is driving this, and ultimatly the innocent will suffer.

I feel for you.

Mike
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« Reply #2 on: 24 January 2008, 18:44:47 »

if the courts let this go in her favour then the law is an a$$......

it's a blame/claim culture we live in now, even when it is their fault they want you to pay the price....

the silly cow shouldn't have been so drunk......oh and use the green cross code  ;)

i would bet this is driven by a greed solicitor or family member....

sounds silly but how old is the girl, if she was under 18 is there not some way you could use the law to your advantage i.e. underage=illegal activity, there are some instances where trying t sue someone who was doing something illegal at the time will throw the case out of court
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Re: Senario
« Reply #3 on: 24 January 2008, 18:49:05 »

That sucks Miggy, i can't fully believe what i have just read :o
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« Reply #4 on: 24 January 2008, 18:51:40 »

I just wonder if there's any mileage in putting in a counter claim for your costs, any loss of earnings, emotional stress etc etc etc.

Presumably, the girl is claiming through some form of no claim no fee outfit? Or, maybe a domestic insurance policy with legal costs cover?

I take it that the solicitor who called today is acting for your insurance company and not for you? If this is the case, you need to contact a solicitor yourself and without further delay. Check all of your domestic insurance policies, many of them have legal expenses insurance included in the premium. I once claimed for this through my building insurance. Keep us posted Pete.
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« Reply #5 on: 24 January 2008, 19:01:53 »

I'm no expert but surely the fact that the police investigated the incident and found you hadn't commited any offence will mean that you won't be prosecuted.
In a court the opinion of the traffic police who attended will carry much greater weight than that of an ambulance chasing solicitor.
I think as said previously you need to take independant legal advice which is free for the first hour IIRC.
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miggy

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« Reply #6 on: 24 January 2008, 19:07:16 »

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I'm no expert but surely the fact that the police investigated the incident and found you hadn't commited any offence will mean that you won't be prosecuted.
In a court the opinion of the traffic police who attended will carry much greater weight than that of an ambulance chasing solicitor.
I think as said previously you need to take independant legal advice which is free for the first hour IIRC.

There is not report from the traffic police, just the beat police and that is not very good, it is just a basic report from what i have seen, my insurance solicitor did say that the courts go in favor of the pedestrian in 90% of cases.

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« Reply #7 on: 24 January 2008, 19:11:34 »

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I'm no expert but surely the fact that the police investigated the incident and found you hadn't commited any offence will mean that you won't be prosecuted.
In a court the opinion of the traffic police who attended will carry much greater weight than that of an ambulance chasing solicitor.
I think as said previously you need to take independant legal advice which is free for the first hour IIRC.

There is not report from the traffic police, just the beat police and that is not very good, it is just a basic report from what i have seen, my insurance solicitor did say that the courts go in favor of the pedestrian in 90% of cases.

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Think I'd be asking hotel21s opinion if I were you Pete.
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« Reply #8 on: 24 January 2008, 19:14:07 »

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I'm no expert but surely the fact that the police investigated the incident and found you hadn't commited any offence will mean that you won't be prosecuted.
In a court the opinion of the traffic police who attended will carry much greater weight than that of an ambulance chasing solicitor.
I think as said previously you need to take independant legal advice which is free for the first hour IIRC.

There is not report from the traffic police, just the beat police and that is not very good, it is just a basic report from what i have seen, my insurance solicitor did say that the courts go in favor of the pedestrian in 90% of cases.

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Think I'd be asking hotel21s opinion if I were you Pete.

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Re: Senario
« Reply #9 on: 24 January 2008, 19:20:39 »

that's unreal, i remember you mentioning this a while back

i hope they find in your favour i really do
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« Reply #10 on: 24 January 2008, 19:24:42 »

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Picture this

The above is what happend to me, and the solicitor came to my home today.

If what was said to me happens i will lose ALL faith in the system and i dont think its right that i should be punished for something that clearly states, she ran into me, and if it was not for my quick response she could have gone over the bonnet, sustaining more injuries.

Wheres the justice in that.

Sorry for the length of the post but what are your thoughts.

 >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(

Call the Police and also sue him for harrasment >:(

If the Police were happy ask them to send the self-abuser a statement
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« Reply #11 on: 24 January 2008, 19:25:59 »

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I'm no expert but surely the fact that the police investigated the incident and found you hadn't commited any offence will mean that you won't be prosecuted.
In a court the opinion of the traffic police who attended will carry much greater weight than that of an ambulance chasing solicitor.
I think as said previously you need to take independant legal advice which is free for the first hour IIRC.

There is not report from the traffic police, just the beat police and that is not very good, it is just a basic report from what i have seen, my insurance solicitor did say that the courts go in favor of the pedestrian in 90% of cases.

 >:( >:( >:(


Oh dear - still ask them anyway.

If you have witnesses bring them in too
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miggy

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« Reply #12 on: 24 January 2008, 19:31:55 »

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Picture this

The above is what happend to me, and the solicitor came to my home today.

If what was said to me happens i will lose ALL faith in the system and i dont think its right that i should be punished for something that clearly states, she ran into me, and if it was not for my quick response she could have gone over the bonnet, sustaining more injuries.

Wheres the justice in that.

Sorry for the length of the post but what are your thoughts.

 >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(

Call the Police and also sue him for harrasment >:(

If the Police were happy ask them to send the self abuser a statement

The solicitor was from my insurance company

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Re: Senario
« Reply #13 on: 24 January 2008, 19:36:16 »

Bloody typical >:(

 It doesn't pay to be honest these days. I would go and buy and old banger for cash, take the plates off it and go and do the job properly this time, make her earn the money.

But seriously I feel for you, a similar thing happened to me 2 years ago :(
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« Reply #14 on: 24 January 2008, 19:44:19 »

That totally sucks >:(, as already mentioned above this will be getting mileage from some claim solicitors, I have had this before via work, claims a year after the actual event, however went in our favour.

The fact that she ran into your car and that she was probably intoxicated and not in control, should surely be in your favour and not even get to court. Would imagine the claim is under 5k so would probably get heard in civil court?, you need to find out what they/she are actually claiming for e.g., injuries and costs. Find out who their solicitors are, you may well find they are the no win no fee bunch.

Even seek independent advice, just for a second opinion, should in the unlucky event it go against you, find out what your options are for appealing. I would'nt let this one go. No doubt you will have the full backing of Forum members here. Go and see a barrister or Q.C. and claim your costs back they will potentially be able to run circles round your run of the mill solicitors. :y
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