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[Boiler Man]

Hi Guys

I hope someone can help me please.

I made the mistake of leaving the wife in the car and the keys in the ignition. (engine off) While i nipped into the shop.
While I was away, she decides to follow me by closing the windows and taking the keys out of the ignition. I return before she is out of the car and I cant open the drivers door at all.

I have no idea what she did but now all the other doors will open and close with both the key and the fob.
The lock button on the drivers door drops and lifts with the rest of the doors, but neither the outside or inside handle will allow me to open the drivers door.
I suspect it may have something to do with the dead lock as I cant hear the second noise when I try to double lock it. :-/

I'm to big and fat to keep scrambling over the centre console

Any advice would be much appreciated.

Gaz

Ps I have a facelift 03 model estate.

[Entwood]

Clutching at a straw ... key in ignition, position 1, so all lights are on but engine not running... press lock, unlock. Remove key.

With any luck it "might" resynch the system ...

If the button then moves but the door remains jammed . something has come adrift inside the door at a guess..

[Andy B]

have you tried the key in the driver's door lock?  :-/

[hotel21]

First of all pull up the internal push button to ensure that the lock is fully unlocked after unlocking on the blipper.  May be the unlocking solenoid is going flakey.

[Boiler Man]

Thanks for the quick reply guys

I've tried locking and unlocking with the fob with the key in the ignition (lights on) It doesnt seem to operate at all in that position.

If I put it in the ignition, without turning it and operate the fob, it will close open all the buttons. But drivers door still locked.

I can close / open locks with key in drivers door. All buttons go down and up. Driver door still locked.

I tried pushing the driver door button down and up and all the other buttons follow :-/

Still cant hear a second clunk when I operate the fob twice for dead lock. or if I double lock with the key in the drivers door.

Can I get the door card off with the door in the close position?

[albitz]

Nope, I dont see how it would be possible. You should be able to unlock the drivers door manually with the key though. It often needs brute force to turn it though.

[Andy B]

As Albs has said you should still be able to mechanically unlock your dead-locked driver's door with the key. It appears that your locking motor for the driver's door has decided to die coincidently with your wife locking the car. You're now in the position of having a completely flat battery and will have to force the lock with the key ....... it may appear brutal but will work (assuming nothing has failed mechanically)

[Entwood]

Desperation mode now .....

Really straw clutching .... start the engine, run at about 2000 rpm and then try unlocking .... its vaguely possible .. and by no means likely .. that the higher voltage obtained that way might "just" be enough to trigger the lock to work

[Andy B]

Desperation mode now .....

Really straw clutching .... start the engine, run at about 2000 rpm and then try unlocking .... its vaguely possible .. and by no means likely .. that the higher voltage obtained that way might "just" be enough to trigger the lock to work

Now that's really really desperate mode Nige 

[Entwood]

Desperation mode now .....

Really straw clutching .... start the engine, run at about 2000 rpm and then try unlocking .... its vaguely possible .. and by no means likely .. that the higher voltage obtained that way might "just" be enough to trigger the lock to work

Now that's really really desperate mode Nige 

Beats having to break the door card to get to the CL motor ....   which is looking like the only other option ..

[tunnie]

sorry back to basics, not really sure if you've done this reading up thread, but have you open/closed the deadlocks?

Outside the car, lock it with remote. Then press lock a second time, that will deadlock it, then press open, and see if the door opens.

As the door pin is going up and down, and you can open it via the key in the lock, it really does point to a deadlock issue. 

[Andy B]

....
Beats having to break the door card to get to the CL motor ....   which is looking like the only other option ..

The driver's door has the ability to be mechanically UN dead-locked, like when the battery is as flat as a very flat thing. IMHO the OP isn't being forcefull enough to mechanically unlock it & uis stopping as soon as the elctrics take over, ie the same as when the key fob is doing its thing. So long as the door lock assembly hasn't fallen apart inside the door, I feel that the door should still be able to be unlocked withthe key. How many posts do we see during winter saying that they just can't get into their car with the key in the door despite us saying to force it & it WILL unlock.

I am willing to be proved wrong ... again  but I get a feeling I'm right.       

[Entwood]

....
Beats having to break the door card to get to the CL motor ....   which is looking like the only other option ..

The driver's door has the ability to be mechanically UN dead-locked, like when the battery is as flat as a very flat thing. IMHO the OP isn't being forcefull enough to mechanically unlock it & uis stopping as soon as the elctrics take over, ie the same as when the key fob is doing its thing. So long as the door lock assembly hasn't fallen apart inside the door, I feel that the door should still be able to be unlocked withthe key. How many posts do we see during winter saying that they just can't get into their car with the key in the door despite us saying to force it & it WILL unlock.

I am willing to be proved wrong ... again  but I get a feeling I'm right.       

I hope you are .. but the fact that the door pin moves ...

I can close / open locks with key in drivers door. All buttons go down and up. Driver door still locked.

I tried pushing the driver door button down and up and all the other buttons follow

indicates to me that the CL is working in as much as the mechanism is activating AS FAR AS THE PINS, but the actual "lock" is not moving. I suspect that something has come adrift internally.

If the barrel is still connected to the lock then the "flat battery" scenario might work ... perhaps disconnecting the battery might allow this ?? At present the system "thinks" it is unlocking as the pins are all moving ??

[sierrapaul]

i had a prob with my pass door the outhr week.1 of my stupid kids tryed to open the door while i was unlocking it with the fob and it jammed uo.when pressing the fob the locking pin was jumping up and down but wouldnt open.in the end had the drivers door open and pressed the fob to lock and unlock it half a dossen times and it unlocked in the end.so try haveing the outher doors open and lock and unlock it with the fob and see if it unlocks.it worked for me so worth a try.paul

[Boiler Man]

Thanks for all your suggestions guys

I have tried unlocking and locking with a combination of other doors a jar at the same time. No Joy.

As mentioned the key lock of the drivers door turns a quarter and works fine, I really cant force it to go any further than it does.

I have tried turning it further after the pins jump up but it doesnt make any differance. Its as if the lock has unlocked but the handles are not triggering the latch that keeps the door closed.

Could it be the mechanisem that releases the door latch has disconnected from the handle or should I say lever.

I can hear and see movement down the gap with the window down, that there is something going on when I pull the handle.

I still cant hear a second clunk when I double lock for the deadlock, like I usually can. Which would suggest the dead lock has jammed? Which confuses matters. :-/

Can I take the door card off, with the door shut?