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[Andy H]

The locking motors get really upset if either the inside or outside handle is lifted slightly when they are operating. Worth pushing the handles to make sure they are in the fully closed position and trying the unlock procedure again.

The door cards are held by a series of press studs, some screws through the armrests and finally by two or three self tapping screws in the bottom edge of the door card. It is the self tapping screws that are inaccessible with door closed

[tunnie]

Your not going to get the doorcard off without damaging it quite badly

[Boiler Man]

Thanks for everyones advice.

Is there a how to remove the door card somewhere?

For facelift model

[tunnie]

In the Maintenance section, check the index 

[OMEEEGAH]

 i have had this happen,you can't lock or unlock the drivers door lock and it just stays shut locked. if you try manually sticking the key in the door lock it won't do anything and i sorted it out by constantly opening and shuting the rcl and lifting the popper up and down until it worked.
then it was right as rain 

[Boiler Man]

Hi Guys

Thanks for all your suggestions. I really have tried them all and really appreciate your help.

I really dont want to butcher my door card and I cant see any way of getting it off with the door shut.

I use this car for work, in and out of it all day. I'm self employed and business isn't great at the mo. I would take it to the dealers, if I knew they would sort it for a reasonable price. But I dont trust them.

Thinking logically with my limited knowledge.

It seems to be one of two things.

On one hand I think it is possible that the door is unlocking, but both the inside and outside handle/lever has somehow become disconnected and is not triggering the the simple final unlatching to spring the door open.

But on the other hand it is strange that the usual double clunk you hear when you dead lock the car is not heard anymore.

I often double lock the car with carrying tools around, so I am used to the sound.

Also and now I'm not so sure about this one,

But when you lock the doors. Doesn't the internal handles move in? Because mine are not doing this anymore? Or am I getting mixed up with one of my older cars?

Alternatively is there any way with the window down, that I can put a hook down the gap and spring the latch?

Thanks in Anticipation. :-/

Gaz

[henryd]

the internal handles do not move when locking a mig,only the lock buttons go up and down,have you tried with the key in the door to apply pressure with the key and lift the outer handle,the lock button will not come up but the door should open

[bigegg]

If the mechanism has come unclipped inside the door, your friendly neighbourhood twocker should be able to open it.

or failing that the AA

[Boiler Man]

If the mechanism has come unclipped inside the door, your friendly neighbourhood twocker should be able to open it.

or failing that the AA

Sorry mate whats a Twocker?

[Dishevelled Den]

If the mechanism has come unclipped inside the door, your friendly neighbourhood twocker should be able to open it.

or failing that the AA

Sorry mate whats a Twocker?

A sctote who assumes the rights of an owner in order to to use the vehicle as they please.

Taking Without Owners Consent.

[Boiler Man]

O' I see

Not likely to find one of them, even if I wanted to.

AA wont touch it if I can gain access, which I can.

Looks like I'm Bo##ocksed then

[Kevin Wood]

Lock button, locking motor and the lock lever on the door catch mechanism move together, so I'd say either the locking mechanism has failed or the connection to the door handle has come adrift (does it feel loose? Have you tried both the inside and outside handle?).

Might be worth asking a local recovery company if they'd have a look? They might have some tricks of the trade if they handle reposession / lock-out calls?

Presumably you could take the car to them, avoiding a callout charge? One of the guys might have a look for a bit of folding?

Failing that, I can't see an alternative to cutting a hole in the door card.

Kevin

[Boiler Man]

Lock button, locking motor and the lock lever on the door catch mechanism move together, so I'd say either the locking mechanism has failed or the connection to the door handle has come adrift (does it feel loose? Have you tried both the inside and outside handle?).

Might be worth asking a local recovery company if they'd have a look? They might have some tricks of the trade if they handle reposession / lock-out calls?

Presumably you could take the car to them, avoiding a callout charge? One of the guys might have a look for a bit of folding?

Failing that, I can't see an alternative to cutting a hole in the door card.

Kevin

Thanks Kevin

With the window down, I can prize a gap between the rubber and the glass and I can see both the handle and lock rods moving, but there is no serious resistance.

The inside lever seems to have a little more resistance and I can hear it moving near the lock area.

But it wont spring the door. It seems to me very unlikely that all 3 rods could come loose at once.
What do you think?

I've tried spraying WD into the gap between the door and the pillar where the lock is, but no joy

I keep wondering why I can't hear the dead lock 2 clunks when I lock twice, but this could just be confusing matters. :-/

[Kevin Wood]

Thanks Kevin

With the window down, I can prize a gap between the rubber and the glass and I can see both the handle and lock rods moving, but there is no serious resistance.

The inside lever seems to have a little more resistance and I can hear it moving near the lock area.

But it wont spring the door. It seems to me very unlikely that all 3 rods could come loose at once.
What do you think?

I've tried spraying WD into the gap between the door and the pillar where the lock is, but no joy

I keep wondering why I can't hear the dead lock 2 clunks when I lock twice, but this could just be confusing matters. :-/

Is it worth removing the window seal? Perhaps that'll give you a little more access?

It is unlikely that both handles have become detached. IIRC, they have completely separate attachments to the lock mechanism.

Is it worth trying to push the door in as you open? Might take some pressure off the mechanism and if it's a little sticky it might just open.

Maybe the lock mechanism isn't unlocking fully? Worth trying to hold the knob to the maximum extent of its' travel while trying the door handle?

Can you get a bar down to the mechanism through which you could deliver a tap with a hammer? Not looking to muller it or the door, but perhaps, if something has jammed, it can be shocked free? :-/

Hmm. What a pain.

Kevin

[Boiler Man]

Thanks again Kevin

Is it easy enough to get the rubbers off?

I could do with getting hold of a replacement mechanism so that I can understand how it works close up. I'm proberbly going to need one anyway.