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Re: Current view on which wishbones?
« Reply #30 on: 05 May 2011, 18:54:42 »

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Re-bush the rears and poly the fronts

Lemforders not worth the money in my opinion


So glad you have said that Master... The amount of people I kept telling they aren't the genuine ones is untrue, they would not have it  :-?
I wish you had voiced your concerns on here before I parted with me cash :'(
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Re: Current view on which wishbones?
« Reply #31 on: 05 May 2011, 19:22:01 »

The only place I'm ever going to buy any further wishbone-related bits is andyc, as detailed in here:

http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1280919863

Hopefully though the ones I've got on, recently rebushed with genuine bushes (without a press), will outlast the rest of the car now (shouldn't be more than a year I reckon).

To pre-empt the question, "how do you fit them without a press:





Plenty of grease on the studding, plenty of elbow grease, bit of care.
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Re: Current view on which wishbones?
« Reply #32 on: 05 May 2011, 20:32:02 »

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Re-bush the rears and poly the fronts

Lemforders not worth the money in my opinion


So glad you have said that Master... The amount of people I kept telling they aren't the genuine ones is untrue, they would not have it  :-?
Thats probably because the likes of those stupid idiots at Autovaux claim it is...
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Re: Current view on which wishbones?
« Reply #33 on: 05 May 2011, 20:37:47 »

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The only place I'm ever going to buy any further wishbone-related bits is andyc, as detailed in here:

http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1280919863

Hopefully though the ones I've got on, recently rebushed with genuine bushes (without a press), will outlast the rest of the car now (shouldn't be more than a year I reckon).

To pre-empt the question, "how do you fit them without a press:





Plenty of grease on the studding, plenty of elbow grease, bit of care.

Very interesting ... where did you get the machined blocks from ?? and how much ???

I have an idea for making OOF a small amount of "running money" ..... :)
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« Reply #34 on: 05 May 2011, 21:14:22 »

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The only place I'm ever going to buy any further wishbone-related bits is andyc, as detailed in here:

http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1280919863

Hopefully though the ones I've got on, recently rebushed with genuine bushes (without a press), will outlast the rest of the car now (shouldn't be more than a year I reckon).

To pre-empt the question, "how do you fit them without a press:





Plenty of grease on the studding, plenty of elbow grease, bit of care.

Very interesting ... where did you get the machined blocks from ?? and how much ???
I have an idea for making OOF a small amount of "running money" ..... :)

A guy I work with turned out the recesses for me, think I gave him a tenner or something.  I 'adjusted' one of them (crudely) a bit on the mill at work to fit, you can see my inelegant work on the right-hand one.

I'm perfectly happy to lend out this set-up to anyone who wants to give it a try.  Postage costs plus a (fully returnable) deposit to cover damage/loss, I suppose.
Also more than happy to donate them to OOF, but I doubt anyone in the admin/mod team particularly wants to administer a loan scheme???  :-/
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Re: Current view on which wishbones?
« Reply #35 on: 05 May 2011, 22:27:55 »

Pressing bushes previously, rears only needed little over a ton of pressure consistently ime.  :y

Fronts needed between 5 and 10 tons depending on fit.
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Re: Current view on which wishbones?
« Reply #36 on: 05 May 2011, 22:53:03 »

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Pressing bushes previously, rears only needed little over a ton of pressure consistently ime.  :y

Fronts needed between 5 and 10 tons depending on fit.

Standard bushes now i take it? not poly?
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Re: Current view on which wishbones?
« Reply #37 on: 05 May 2011, 22:54:52 »

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Because SACHS, LEMFÖRDER and BOGE are all part of ZF Parts
Oh yeah.

These are the ones cut out of the original wishbones of my current car. 60k old.  :-[


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« Reply #38 on: 05 May 2011, 23:08:26 »

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Pressing bushes previously, rears only needed little over a ton of pressure consistently ime.  :y

Fronts needed between 5 and 10 tons depending on fit.

Standard bushes now i take it? not poly?
Yep. Stock, and BMW m3/5 upper(?) control arm. (never fitted Polly yet personally.) But seems the way to go, ESP. having seen the consistency of Shakeng s front roll bar bushes, and driven his Polly'd TD. No sign of any harshness at all. More precise steering, although TB says the TD is more "pointy"....  Should add I have not driven a stock TD to make a direct comparison, but Shak seems well happy.
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Re: Current view on which wishbones?
« Reply #39 on: 05 May 2011, 23:12:12 »

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The only place I'm ever going to buy any further wishbone-related bits is andyc, as detailed in here:

http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1280919863

Hopefully though the ones I've got on, recently rebushed with genuine bushes (without a press), will outlast the rest of the car now (shouldn't be more than a year I reckon).

To pre-empt the question, "how do you fit them without a press:





Plenty of grease on the studding, plenty of elbow grease, bit of care.

Very interesting ... where did you get the machined blocks from ?? and how much ???
I have an idea for making OOF a small amount of "running money" ..... :)

A guy I work with turned out the recesses for me, think I gave him a tenner or something.  I 'adjusted' one of them (crudely) a bit on the mill at work to fit, you can see my inelegant work on the right-hand one.

I'm perfectly happy to lend out this set-up to anyone who wants to give it a try.  Postage costs plus a (fully returnable) deposit to cover damage/loss, I suppose.
Also more than happy to donate them to OOF, but I doubt anyone in the admin/mod team particularly wants to administer a loan scheme???  :-/


Perhaps not ... but maybe someone outside the mod/admin team could do so, and send the money onwards ?? 

It's been an idea of mine for a while with the V6 cam kit, maybe the "pressing tools" and any other infrequently used items (eg, modified header tank cap) could become part of an "OOF loan" system to help raise funds to support the running of the forum ???

Obviously items would have to be pretty light to avoid massive postal costs adn some sort of deposit/post count rules setup, but at say £5 - £10 a time hire fee it could make a small contribution to the running costs ??






No idea whats happened to the quote system there ...  looks fine on edit .. but comes out wierd !!
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Re: Current view on which wishbones?
« Reply #40 on: 06 May 2011, 12:08:16 »

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Pressing bushes previously, rears only needed little over a ton of pressure consistently ime.  :y

Fronts needed between 5 and 10 tons depending on fit.

Standard bushes now i take it? not poly?
Yep. Stock, and BMW m3/5 upper(?) control arm. (never fitted Polly yet personally.) But seems the way to go, ESP. having seen the consistency of Shakeng s front roll bar bushes, and driven his Polly'd TD. No sign of any harshness at all. More precise steering, although TB says the TD is more "pointy"....  Should add I have not driven a stock TD to make a direct comparison, but Shak seems well happy.

I just wonder if the rear bush takes more punishment when the front is poly'ed?

Well, I know it will, but will it lead to rear bush failure being a PITA just like the front bush was? :-/
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Re: Current view on which wishbones?
« Reply #41 on: 06 May 2011, 13:12:35 »

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Pressing bushes previously, rears only needed little over a ton of pressure consistently ime.  :y

Fronts needed between 5 and 10 tons depending on fit.

Standard bushes now i take it? not poly?
Yep. Stock, and BMW m3/5 upper(?) control arm. (never fitted Polly yet personally.) But seems the way to go, ESP. having seen the consistency of Shakeng s front roll bar bushes, and driven his Polly'd TD. No sign of any harshness at all. More precise steering, although TB says the TD is more "pointy"....  Should add I have not driven a stock TD to make a direct comparison, but Shak seems well happy.

I just wonder if the rear bush takes more punishment when the front is poly'ed?

Well, I know it will, but will it lead to rear bush failure being a PITA just like the front bush was? :-/

I doubt it will, the polybushes are not really any harder.

I think the thing that does the rear bushes is suspension travel TBH and not so much the horizontal deflection
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Re: Current view on which wishbones?
« Reply #42 on: 08 May 2011, 12:14:57 »

Fella here http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1300296371/15 has made some poly vertical bushes.
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Re: Current view on which wishbones?
« Reply #43 on: 08 May 2011, 22:45:14 »

Well I thought it was interesting, never mind :)
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Re: Current view on which wishbones?
« Reply #44 on: 09 May 2011, 01:05:07 »

Yeah i read this a while back, i wish i could do stuff like this lol
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