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Error code 19, Omega V6 -99 won't start
« on: 21 May 2011, 19:49:38 »
The title says it all but here is the long version:

For  about 3-4 weeks the car, a Omega 2.5 V6 -99 preface lift, just didn't start.
After a couple of days, without anything changed, check or tried I did try to start it again and it started right away.
A week passed then it did the same again, meaning it didn't start again. Since then, it haven't started again.

First of all I thought it was the fuel pump since the fuel hose at the motor didn't hold any fuel when I unscrewed it.
After removing the fuel pump I tried to run it to an jump starter which made it run like it was supposed to.
Then I check the fuel pump relay and it doesn't close. But when i force the tongue of it to close the pump starts working.
I check the voltage to the pump which always gives 9 volts [should it not be 12?].
After that I checked the OBD-II contact [does my Omega have OBD 2 or GM's homemade OBD 1.5?, checked wiki for that] with the paper clip-method and it gives the code 19 which is the crank sensor.

My real question is:
Can a busted crank sensor make this havoc?
Can anything else be wrong?
Any advice is worth taking into consideration!
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Re: Error code 19, Omega V6 -99 won't start
« Reply #1 on: 21 May 2011, 19:51:01 »
You`ve found the problem...........crank sensor
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Re: Error code 19, Omega V6 -99 won't start
« Reply #2 on: 21 May 2011, 19:54:56 »
And to answer the questions... Yes, a crank sensor will cause all those problems/symptoms :y :y

Genuine Vx is recommended but you need to check what plug/part number as there are a few ;) Oh... And the EPC has some errors on the 99 model year so don't just let the dealer order the one he thinks, check the Plug/part number :y :y
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Re: Error code 19, Omega V6 -99 won't start
« Reply #3 on: 21 May 2011, 19:58:31 »
fit a genuine vauxhall one and follow the routing guide on here or otherwise you will be doing the same thing again very soon  :(
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1174321688  :y
oh andwell done with your fault finding  ;)
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Re: Error code 19, Omega V6 -99 won't start
« Reply #4 on: 21 May 2011, 20:02:11 »
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And to answer the questions... Yes, a crank sensor will cause all those problems/symptoms :y :y

Genuine Vx is recommended but you need to check what plug/part number as there are a few ;) Oh... And the EPC has some errors on the 99 model year so don't just let the dealer order the one he thinks, check the Plug/part number :y :y

Lovely, thanks for the fast responds!
I am not sure I understand what you are saying.
I checked both the British and the German eBay and found some dealers selling crankshaft sensors for about £40 for Omega V6, I assume that all Omegas with V6 has the same sensor.
I just link a site to get your opinion:

http://cgi.ebay.de/KURBELWELLENSENSOR-SENSOR-OPEL-OMEGA-B-2-5-3-2-V6-NEU-/300551732085?pt=Autoteile_Zubeh%C3%B6r&hash=item45fa477b75

To bad I can't get the part in time for the survey of the car.
Its on Thursday, I think it will be rescheduled  ;)
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Re: Error code 19, Omega V6 -99 won't start
« Reply #5 on: 21 May 2011, 20:04:35 »
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... I assume that all Omegas with V6 has the same sensor. .....

No, there are various. If only I could get to Trade Club's site I could post the options ............ but I can't  :-?
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Re: Error code 19, Omega V6 -99 won't start
« Reply #6 on: 21 May 2011, 20:09:09 »
Sorry Java, didn't spot that you weren't in UK :-[ ::)

You're welcome to try that but you need to be sure it's a Genuine Bosch part as a minimum, if not from an Opel dealer :y

Think you want (GM) Part Number 90540743 but you need to confirm. There were a couple of different plug shapes :y

[edit]Didn't spot it was a 2.5 :-[ :-[

Choice of 2... Should be: 90492061 (2.5 Later Models) but might be: 90492006 (2.5 Earlier Models)

Part Numbers taken from Trade Club Book ;) ;)[/edit]
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Re: Error code 19, Omega V6 -99 won't start
« Reply #7 on: 21 May 2011, 20:09:13 »
best thing to do is check your crank sensor plug
there are 3 different types
oblong plug
oblong plug with rounded corners
oblong plug with rounded corners and recessed pins
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Re: Error code 19, Omega V6 -99 won't start
« Reply #8 on: 21 May 2011, 20:13:41 »
gm 9174621
is the part number but as i said you have to check what plug you need  ;)
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Re: Error code 19, Omega V6 -99 won't start
« Reply #9 on: 21 May 2011, 20:19:50 »
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gm 9174621
is the part number but as i said you have to check what plug you need  ;)
Nope.
2.5 (later models)                                       90492061 
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Re: Error code 19, Omega V6 -99 won't start
« Reply #10 on: 21 May 2011, 20:26:06 »
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gm 9174621
is the part number but as i said you have to check what plug you need  ;)
Nope.
2.5 (later models)                                       90492061 

So later models is considered from -99 preface lift?
I found the item 90492061, this won't work then?
« Last Edit: 21 May 2011, 20:38:10 by Java »
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Re: Error code 19, Omega V6 -99 won't start
« Reply #11 on: 21 May 2011, 20:35:53 »
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gm 9174621
is the part number but as i said you have to check what plug you need  ;)
Nope.
2.5 (later models)                                       90492061 

So later models is considered from -99 preface lift?

This is why you need to check the part number/plug.

Part Number should be stamped on it and just about legible with a torch & mirror from underneath ;)
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Re: Error code 19, Omega V6 -99 won't start
« Reply #12 on: 21 May 2011, 20:40:44 »
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gm 9174621
is the part number but as i said you have to check what plug you need  ;)
Nope.
2.5 (later models)                                       90492061 

So later models is considered from -99 preface lift?
I found the item 90492061, this won't work then?
`98 onwards
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Re: Error code 19, Omega V6 -99 won't start
« Reply #13 on: 21 May 2011, 20:43:24 »
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2.5 (later models)                                       90492061 

sorry you are correct LD  :-[
but when i bought one from andyc last week i had to descibe the plug as he said that there were 3 fitted to a 99 2.5L thats why i described the plug types to the op  :y
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Re: Error code 19, Omega V6 -99 won't start
« Reply #14 on: 21 May 2011, 20:47:00 »
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... I assume that all Omegas with V6 has the same sensor. .....

No, there are various. If only I could get to Trade Club's site I could post the options ............ but I can't  :-?
I can :P
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