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Brake pedal hits the floor
« on: 03 July 2011, 21:34:07 »

Under extreme braking from high speed, the pedal goes to the floor.

It starts out normal for the first few seconds, but then steps down a bit, they steps down again to the floor.

The brakes were already very hot before this.


Change the fluid?  ...  ...after all, this has full Vx service history :P
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Re: Brake pedal hits the floor
« Reply #1 on: 03 July 2011, 21:39:52 »

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Under extreme braking from high speed, the pedal goes to the floor.

It starts out normal for the first few seconds, but then steps down a bit, they steps down again to the floor.

The brakes were already very hot before this.


Change the fluid?  ...  ...after all, this has full Vx service history :P

Mine was the same until I changed the fluid :y
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Re: Brake pedal hits the floor
« Reply #2 on: 03 July 2011, 21:47:57 »

I reckon it's the driving seat/steering wheel interface.  Replace with one more sedate and the problem should go  ;D :y
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Re: Brake pedal hits the floor
« Reply #3 on: 03 July 2011, 22:03:23 »

Are both Brake Light Bulbs working?  :-/

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Re: Brake pedal hits the floor
« Reply #4 on: 03 July 2011, 22:03:48 »

Change the brake fluid Jaime - it's full of water and you're boiling it!!
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Re: Brake pedal hits the floor
« Reply #5 on: 03 July 2011, 22:05:07 »

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I reckon it's the driving seat/steering wheel interface.  Replace with one more sedate and the problem should go  ;D :y
The organic interface nearly malfunctioned and kacked itself, but fortunately, plenty of opportunity to go straight on  :-[


(Which is why I test brakes on that part of my test circuit)
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« Reply #6 on: 03 July 2011, 22:05:55 »

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Are both Brake Light Bulbs working?  :-/

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Not checked. No warnings on GID. ABS works fine.
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Re: Brake pedal hits the floor
« Reply #7 on: 03 July 2011, 22:06:58 »

definetly boiled  or old fluid, change it completely, and while your there check extremely carefully for any sticking brakes,
this is the single biggest cause of boiled fluid!!
if a brake dont release properly it just continues heating the caliper and disc!!

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Re: Brake pedal hits the floor
« Reply #8 on: 03 July 2011, 22:10:04 »

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definetly boiled  or old fluid, change it completely, and while your there check extremely carefully for any sticking brakes,
this is the single biggest cause of boiled fluid!!
if a brake dont release properly it just continues heating the caliper and disc!!
Pretty certain neither of the fronts are sticky. Rears defo aren't, as I was messing about with handbrake 2 or 3 weeks ago, and checked them.
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Re: Brake pedal hits the floor
« Reply #9 on: 03 July 2011, 22:12:05 »

Cheers guys. That definately rules out it going to The Lakes - no time to do it, plus TheDaddy has my Eezibleed, thieving git :P
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Re: Brake pedal hits the floor
« Reply #10 on: 03 July 2011, 22:15:16 »

check them agin just to be sure mate, you do know that brake fluid change should be carried out every 2 years minimum?
preferably annually, however 5.1 is less susceptible to hydroscopic action, i personally prefer it used it in all me track day cars as it has a higherboiling point as well,
may pay you to change to that spec fluid?

some people say it doesnt give as nice a pedal feel but it takes mins to get used to it, its been in the old tractor since ive had it and is also in the new one!! :y

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Re: Brake pedal hits the floor
« Reply #11 on: 03 July 2011, 22:19:03 »

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check them agin just to be sure mate, you do know that brake fluid change should be carried out every 2 years minimum?
preferably annually, however 5.1 is less susceptible to hydroscopic action, i personally prefer it used it in all me track day cars as it has a higherboiling point as well,
may pay you to change to that spec fluid?

some people say it doesnt give as nice a pedal feel but it takes mins to get used to it, its been in the old tractor since ive had it and is also in the new one!! :y
I reckon the fluid in my estate was original  :o Certainly was discoloured enough and the pedal feel was dreadful all the time. Once changed out it was a great improvement :y I'll probably do it again quite soon and activate the ABS as well to get it all out ;)
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Re: Brake pedal hits the floor
« Reply #12 on: 03 July 2011, 22:20:29 »

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check them agin just to be sure mate, you do know that brake fluid change should be carried out every 2 years minimum?
preferably annually, however 5.1 is less susceptible to hydroscopic action, i personally prefer it used it in all me track day cars as it has a higherboiling point as well,
may pay you to change to that spec fluid?

some people say it doesnt give as nice a pedal feel but it takes mins to get used to it, its been in the old tractor since ive had it and is also in the new one!! :y

DO NOT PUT SYNTH BRAKE FLUID IN A SYSTEM WHICH ISNT DESIGNED FOR IT!  Your seals will be waving you bye bye.
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Re: Brake pedal hits the floor
« Reply #13 on: 03 July 2011, 22:22:37 »

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check them agin just to be sure mate, you do know that brake fluid change should be carried out every 2 years minimum?
preferably annually, however 5.1 is less susceptible to hydroscopic action, i personally prefer it used it in all me track day cars as it has a higherboiling point as well,
may pay you to change to that spec fluid?

some people say it doesnt give as nice a pedal feel but it takes mins to get used to it, its been in the old tractor since ive had it and is also in the new one!! :y
Yup, aware of interval :y.  Yet another example of full dealer service history ;)
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Re: Brake pedal hits the floor
« Reply #14 on: 03 July 2011, 22:23:13 »

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check them agin just to be sure mate, you do know that brake fluid change should be carried out every 2 years minimum?
preferably annually, however 5.1 is less susceptible to hydroscopic action, i personally prefer it used it in all me track day cars as it has a higherboiling point as well,
may pay you to change to that spec fluid?

some people say it doesnt give as nice a pedal feel but it takes mins to get used to it, its been in the old tractor since ive had it and is also in the new one!! :y

DO NOT PUT SYNTH BRAKE FLUID IN A SYSTEM WHICH ISNT DESIGNED FOR IT!  Your seals will be waving you bye bye.

Rubbish!!! it has by law to be compatible with the old stuff,
a full fluid change will not in anyway shape or form hurt the braking system, i usd it in all 24v carltons, sennys even the mega omega, never had the slightest worries over it
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