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ajr3773

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Lowering Elite
« on: 30 June 2011, 20:23:24 »

Looking for some advice on lowering my Elite.

Does anybody know of any decent kits to lower my Elite by between 30 & 40mm or does anyone know what is the best but cheapest way to set this up as 2 of my shockers are leaking.

Ive also heard that the Elite has gas shockers on the back. Can these be replaced with standard ones or not.

Thanks in advance.
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Re: Lowering Elite
« Reply #1 on: 30 June 2011, 20:24:51 »

The self leveling shocks can be replaced with std shocks/uprated shocks no problem at all!  :y
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Re: Lowering Elite
« Reply #2 on: 30 June 2011, 21:43:10 »

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Looking for some advice on lowering my Elite.

Does anybody know of any [size=20]decent[/size][/b] kits to lower my Elite by between 30 & 40mm or does anyone know what is the best but cheapest way to set this up as 2 of my shockers are leaking.

Ive also heard that the Elite has gas shockers on the back. Can these be replaced with standard ones or not.

Thanks in advance.

You would have to be looking at either Eibach (who made the Irmscher springs) or Steinmetz springs if you after reputable quality. Combine these with Bilstein B4 or B8's depending on how big your budget is - the B8's are technically a better match but lots of folks find the B4s work fine.

I am doing this set up in a few weeks and will prob go for the B4's (B8's have a shortened piston to better suit lowering springs but -30mm seems to be the cross over point of suitability). The B8's will let the same car sit a bit lower on any given spring.
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Re: Lowering Elite
« Reply #3 on: 01 July 2011, 00:25:30 »

if you look at my pictures in the gallery you can see that mine has been lowered.

i dont know what springs they are but they are red. the rear also has red springs but still has the gas shocks and as you can see in the pictures when the back end lifts up it does look odd and looks like it only been lowered on the front
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Re: Lowering Elite
« Reply #4 on: 01 July 2011, 05:37:00 »

Thought of doing this to mine but on asking my insurers if it would affect my insurance they said that it would have an adverse impact on my cover and the premiums.
Does this mod really break the manufacturers Construction and Use regulations thereby making it an illegal and possibly dangerous conversion or are they having me on? If I do it will the car have to undergo some form of re-test for roadworthiness and suitability?
Looks like a big can of worms to me because I do not want to break the law and end up with a marked license, or worse. Admitted they look good but will it be worth the possible implications and consequences?
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« Last Edit: 01 July 2011, 05:37:49 by its.ray »
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Re: Lowering Elite
« Reply #5 on: 01 July 2011, 22:34:21 »

The 'adverse' premium may not be as much as you may have been lead to believe.

Interestingly I had some KYB 'standard' rear springs fitted last year as the rears had broken. It took the garage 4 different sets of KYBs to get the rear sitting to their liking. After this they seem to have settled and the rear shox are basically shot making the rear sit just 'nice' - probably -30mm! So, Mr Insurer, would you rather have my car with shot but legal rear shox and some slightly soft 'standard' quality cheap rear springs or a decent set of high quality springs and quality shock absorbers coz at the moment it DOES look like it has been lowered but it has not!

NB - I declared lowered susp on a previous car and it added about 5-10% to the premium and that was with a regular insurer.
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Re: Lowering Elite
« Reply #6 on: 05 July 2011, 08:31:10 »

after doing some MOT work on my car i discovered that the lowering springs on my car are in fact irmacher springs,

so i suppose 1 could argue that they are original as they are not Koni springs or any other well known names.

just a thought........ :-/

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« Reply #7 on: 05 July 2011, 13:11:48 »

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after doing some MOT work on my car i discovered that the lowering springs on my car are in fact irmacher springs,

so i suppose 1 could argue that they are original as they are not Koni springs or any other well known names.

just a thought........ :-/



So, one innocently buys a car already lowered but you do not realise this - how do you stand with the insurers????
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« Reply #8 on: 06 July 2011, 09:45:57 »

Irmscher stuff, and their suspension lowered to 30mill, was available factory fit. Therefor was not a modification as such.

Just a little grey area I like to use when informing my insurance company about my latest new car.  :y

it is interesting though, what insurers call a modification, and merely replacing a worn part (for a slightly better spec)
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