Elite estate suspension upgrade

[Lazydocker]

Excellent information Cliff and something I'm considering

I wonder if there is any way to hide the control gubbins away within the raised boot floor

[tigers_gonads]

Cracking job there Cliff 

[Cliffo B]

Ah yes
Did think of that
But wouldn't be accessable to normalise suspension when un-hooking van
Especially with Winifred's buggy parked up and other touring essentials loaded
Remember haveing to unload Miggy at the Lakes Meet?
If you do decide to go ahead I'll be happy to help with info
Can tell you now the particular part No of the bladders is 46150
You can see it on top of the bladders in the pics as a blue smudge
There is differing sizes of bladders with optional Schrader valves/nipples
To make sure the bladders are still available
I've recently been in touch with the makers
And got an email with an attached listing
We'll be more than likely going to a meet this year
Especially if there's one at the Lakes
If you were there it would be a good chance to check out Miggy's bladders

[Cliffo B]

Thanks should be Tigers
Sure took me long enough
Well easy
Being retired and labour of love

[Lazydocker]

Ah yes
Did think of that
But wouldn't be accessable to normalise suspension when un-hooking van
Especially with Winifred's buggy parked up and other touring essentials loaded
Remember haveing to unload Miggy at the Lakes Meet?
If you do decide to go ahead I'll be happy to help with info
Can tell you now the particular part No of the bladders is 46150
You can see it on top of the bladders in the pics as a blue smudge
There is differing sizes of bladders with optional Schrader valves/nipples
To make sure the bladders are still available
I've recently been in touch with the makers
And got an email with an attached listing
We'll be more than likely going to a meet this year
Especially if there's one at the Lakes
If you were there it would be a good chance to check out Miggy's bladders

Yes... Needs some careful thought if trying to hide it all away

And, of course, you really need the car loaded when adjusting the pressures so needs to be fairly accessible I wonder if it could be hidden in the front face of the raised floor, recessed obviously, so that you open the tailgate and it's right there in front of you on the O/S

[Cliffo B]

Just thought on Paul when I had it installed in the MV6
I had a small 12v compressor permanently in line and all the required gubbins located in the small R/H locker
This worked very well
However the R/h locker now is needed for a very essential items storage
And occasional urgent need

[Cliffo B]

There is no pressure variables or adjusting required
The pressure requirement is fixed on 1st install
Deflate Miggy's S/L system
Load Miggy for touring
Inflate bladders to restore Miggy's rear wheel arch to the std height
Take note of the pressure needed
For me is 12psi
Restore miggy's S/L system to normal working auto inflation mode
From now on all loading being reasonably equal for a journey
I just inflate to 12psi
Once inflated to 12psi for a journey no further top ups or adjustments are needed
Untill journey's end when I deflate the bladders 

[Lazydocker]

There is no pressure variables or adjusting required
The pressure requirement is fixed on 1st install
Deflate Miggy's S/L system
Load Miggy for touring
Inflate bladders to restore Miggy's rear wheel arch to the std height
Take note of the pressure needed
For me is 12psi
Restore miggy's S/L system to normal working auto inflation mode
From now on all loading being reasonably equal for a journey
I just inflate to 12psi
Once inflated to 12psi for a journey no further top ups or adjustments are needed
Untill journey's end when I deflate the bladders

I didn't make myself clear. If/when I fit them it is to replace the S/L system as I find it too soft.

Would be needed only when fully loaded but I'd need to be able to access the gubbins when loaded up to set the pressure, although I suppose I could do it in advance

Still good info and I'm sure we could work something out

[Cliffo B]

Think I now understand where your coming from
Can't see any problem in the gubbins installed in the area you want
The warning system could be out of site anywhere
The only bits needing ready access is the inflation valve and of course the little on/off switch
For pressure reading you could use any suitably convenient tyre gauge off the schrader valve
Or a 12v pump with a dgital gauge

[feeutfo]

Can these not be connected to the original SL pump and airlines? no gubbins needed then? Pull the relay when not in use...?

[feeutfo]

Although thinking about it, pulling the relay won't release the air from the bladders.

[Cliffo B]

Ok Chris I thought long and hard as it would seem as you think the obvious way to go
I simply decided to keep the air supply to the  bladders seperate
This to read and diagnose easily any problems the 2 systems had working together firstly when under individual rated pressures
As per my original post I never did get to know what the working pressures are of the S/L system
I was pleasantly surprised to find that they integrated together so well
So the need for that info became redundant
This when set up so the bladders are the factors that assist only the springs to bear the measured extra load
This allows the shocks to do their work without excess stress and to some degree as if no extra load exists
And I suppose it now seems to me so much simpler and less complicated
In practice it works like a dream

[Lazydocker]

Don't forget Chris, you and I have very different requirements to those of Cliff

[Kevin Wood]

Can these not be connected to the original SL pump and airlines? no gubbins needed then? Pull the relay when not in use...?

Seems the obvious solution to me, even if you ditch the SL ECU then fit a manual switch and pressure gauge to inflate/deflate. No messing about with an external pump.

[feeutfo]

Can these not be connected to the original SL pump and airlines? no gubbins needed then? Pull the relay when not in use...?

Seems the obvious solution to me, even if you ditch the SL ECU then fit a manual switch and pressure gauge to inflate/deflate. No messing about with an external pump.

Good place to start, see how it goes and develop from there.