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CDC2 query
« on: 20 June 2009, 15:11:40 »

I've taken the CDC2 out of my car as it's decided to eat a James Blunt CD (can't say I blame it really just I'd have spat it straight out again). It was showing an error anyway. Free'd up and binned the CD and noticed the code on the back is an FD. I thought it was FA for non phone H/U and FC for the CCRT700????? Mine should be an FC shouldn't it as I have the CCRT700?
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Re: CDC2 query
« Reply #1 on: 20 June 2009, 16:36:30 »

without checking mine in garage, can't say, but I would expect the FA to be the CCR600/800 one.

Thats not to say somebody hasn't changed the control board ;)
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Re: CDC2 query
« Reply #2 on: 21 June 2009, 13:17:29 »

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without checking mine in garage, can't say, but I would expect the FA to be the CCR600/800 one.

Thats not to say somebody hasn't changed the control board ;)

Thanks TB, this one is knackered anyway so looking to replace it. I just needed to be sure if I needed the FC or FD. AFAIK should be the FC for the CCRT700 but this is an FD?
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Re: CDC2 query
« Reply #3 on: 21 June 2009, 19:10:12 »

I must admit that outside of this Omega forum, I have never before encountered these FA FB FC etc prefixes, and to me appear to mean absolutely nothing !

 :-/

As a general rule of thumb - on the side of the label is a 10 digit Blaupunkt part number , starts  7 ??? ??? ???

replace like with like, do not mix with other similar numbers

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Re: CDC2 query
« Reply #4 on: 21 June 2009, 19:12:12 »

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I must admit that outside of this Omega forum, I have never before encountered these FA FB FC etc prefixes, and to me appear to mean absolutely nothing !

 :-/

As a general rule of thumb - on the side of the label is a 10 digit Blaupunkt part number , starts  7 ??? ??? ???

replace like with like, do not mix with other similar numbers

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These 2 letter codes are GM Ident codes, and are used to distinguish between similar items in the GM world :)
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Re: CDC2 query
« Reply #5 on: 21 June 2009, 19:12:58 »

Sure on the back of the multi changers from cars I have broken it had FD on them.
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Re: CDC2 query
« Reply #6 on: 21 June 2009, 22:25:38 »

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I must admit that outside of this Omega forum, I have never before encountered these FA FB FC etc prefixes, and to me appear to mean absolutely nothing !

 :-/

As a general rule of thumb - on the side of the label is a 10 digit Blaupunkt part number , starts  7 ??? ??? ???

replace like with like, do not mix with other similar numbers

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These 2 letter codes are GM Ident codes, and are used to distinguish between similar items in the GM world :)

I know where you are coming from, but they are not consistant numbers with the rest of the VX range that also utilise the CDC2 changer and I can see that if you rely too heavily on these numbers alone, you may inadvertantly end up with an Astra or Vectra unit that may not be compatable.

The Blaupunkt part number as far as I can tell is the only definitative part number in identifying correctly the CDC2 changer throughout the entire GM range, but the FD numbers you are using, whilst they may seem OK within the Omega community, are certainly open to some expensive mistakes with other VX models.

Just pointing it out in case you didn`t know  ;)
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Re: CDC2 query
« Reply #7 on: 22 June 2009, 09:31:16 »

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I must admit that outside of this Omega forum, I have never before encountered these FA FB FC etc prefixes, and to me appear to mean absolutely nothing !

 :-/

As a general rule of thumb - on the side of the label is a 10 digit Blaupunkt part number , starts  7 ??? ??? ???

replace like with like, do not mix with other similar numbers

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These 2 letter codes are GM Ident codes, and are used to distinguish between similar items in the GM world :)

I know where you are coming from, but they are not consistant numbers with the rest of the VX range that also utilise the CDC2 changer and I can see that if you rely too heavily on these numbers alone, you may inadvertantly end up with an Astra or Vectra unit that may not be compatable.

The Blaupunkt part number as far as I can tell is the only definitative part number in identifying correctly the CDC2 changer throughout the entire GM range, but the FD numbers you are using, whilst they may seem OK within the Omega community, are certainly open to some expensive mistakes with other VX models.

Just pointing it out in case you didn`t know  ;)
The Ident code should be the same across all Vauxhall/Opel :)
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Re: CDC2 query
« Reply #8 on: 22 June 2009, 11:04:38 »

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I must admit that outside of this Omega forum, I have never before encountered these FA FB FC etc prefixes, and to me appear to mean absolutely nothing !

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As a general rule of thumb - on the side of the label is a 10 digit Blaupunkt part number , starts  7 ??? ??? ???

replace like with like, do not mix with other similar numbers

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These 2 letter codes are GM Ident codes, and are used to distinguish between similar items in the GM world :)

I know where you are coming from, but they are not consistant numbers with the rest of the VX range that also utilise the CDC2 changer and I can see that if you rely too heavily on these numbers alone, you may inadvertantly end up with an Astra or Vectra unit that may not be compatable.

The Blaupunkt part number as far as I can tell is the only definitative part number in identifying correctly the CDC2 changer throughout the entire GM range, but the FD numbers you are using, whilst they may seem OK within the Omega community, are certainly open to some expensive mistakes with other VX models.

Just pointing it out in case you didn`t know  ;)
The Ident code should be the same across all Vauxhall/Opel :)

It SHOULD but trust me when I say that it Isnt !

Also, there are a number of Holden units appearing in the UK, and they are inconsistant as well.
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Re: CDC2 query
« Reply #9 on: 22 June 2009, 11:25:07 »

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I must admit that outside of this Omega forum, I have never before encountered these FA FB FC etc prefixes, and to me appear to mean absolutely nothing !

 :-/

As a general rule of thumb - on the side of the label is a 10 digit Blaupunkt part number , starts  7 ??? ??? ???

replace like with like, do not mix with other similar numbers

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These 2 letter codes are GM Ident codes, and are used to distinguish between similar items in the GM world :)

I know where you are coming from, but they are not consistant numbers with the rest of the VX range that also utilise the CDC2 changer and I can see that if you rely too heavily on these numbers alone, you may inadvertantly end up with an Astra or Vectra unit that may not be compatable.

The Blaupunkt part number as far as I can tell is the only definitative part number in identifying correctly the CDC2 changer throughout the entire GM range, but the FD numbers you are using, whilst they may seem OK within the Omega community, are certainly open to some expensive mistakes with other VX models.

Just pointing it out in case you didn`t know  ;)
The Ident code should be the same across all Vauxhall/Opel :)

It SHOULD but trust me when I say that it Isnt !

Also, there are a number of Holden units appearing in the UK, and they are inconsistant as well.
Wonder if owners in the past have changed i/o boards to make it work with stereo?  The Ident code is tied to the GM part number, and thus should be consistent across GM.  'Should' being the problem ;D
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Re: CDC2 query
« Reply #10 on: 22 June 2009, 12:00:17 »

No, I think its more a case of we are starting to see a few more anomolies, most of the ones I have seen of late still have the warranty seals on them.

Its right up there with the recent one you spotted, the one about all CCR2006`s being tech2 able for BOSE?

until you spotted one that wasn`t, I too would have sworn blind that they were - I think I may have indentified a similar flaw in the GM numbering for CD players.

Blaupunkt part numbers (and have checked all these with Blaupunkt themselves) are definately 100% accurate and consistant, so as long as you replace like with like, you should not have any compatability issues.
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Re: CDC2 query
« Reply #11 on: 22 June 2009, 12:25:21 »

This busted one has these numbers:-

Blaupunkt 7 607 797 321
GM 90 566 804
Type FD

Anyone got one ;D ;D
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« Reply #12 on: 22 June 2009, 12:33:06 »

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No, I think its more a case of we are starting to see a few more anomolies, most of the ones I have seen of late still have the warranty seals on them.

Its right up there with the recent one you spotted, the one about all CCR2006`s being tech2 able for BOSE?

until you spotted one that wasn`t, I too would have sworn blind that they were - I think I may have indentified a similar flaw in the GM numbering for CD players.

Blaupunkt part numbers (and have checked all these with Blaupunkt themselves) are definately 100% accurate and consistant, so as long as you replace like with like, you should not have any compatability issues.
Maybe we should start a table of what we know, inc GM part number, BP part number, Ident, what we know it works with.

I have 2 CDC2s in garage, one from ccr600/800, other for ccrt700, also have a couple of CDC3s, one for NCDx series, other originally for ccr600/800 series (before I played ::))

If you think its worthwhile, I'll draw up a table, and hopefully others can add there bits if different, so we can get a fuller picture :)
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« Reply #13 on: 22 June 2009, 12:34:54 »

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This busted one has these numbers:-

Blaupunkt 7 607 797 321
GM 90 566 804
Type FD

Anyone got one ;D ;D
Not that I want to get rid of currently  :'(
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Re: CDC2 query
« Reply #14 on: 22 June 2009, 12:48:14 »

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No, I think its more a case of we are starting to see a few more anomolies, most of the ones I have seen of late still have the warranty seals on them.

Its right up there with the recent one you spotted, the one about all CCR2006`s being tech2 able for BOSE?

until you spotted one that wasn`t, I too would have sworn blind that they were - I think I may have indentified a similar flaw in the GM numbering for CD players.

Blaupunkt part numbers (and have checked all these with Blaupunkt themselves) are definately 100% accurate and consistant, so as long as you replace like with like, you should not have any compatability issues.
Maybe we should start a table of what we know, inc GM part number, BP part number, Ident, what we know it works with.

I have 2 CDC2s in garage, one from ccr600/800, other for ccrt700, also have a couple of CDC3s, one for NCDx series, other originally for ccr600/800 series (before I played ::))

If you think its worthwhile, I'll draw up a table, and hopefully others can add there bits if different, so we can get a fuller picture :)

I think a table would be an excellent idea, but rather than posting it as something that could end up being very long as people add there own bits and threads to it, might I suggest a sticky thread with a single compatability chart shown, but to keep the size of teh thread down to a readable level, instead of people adding to a long list of threads, why not use the data they give to update the table yourself, so that we only have on view, one chart with all information shown, and the missing blanks will be added to as time goes on?

This problem rears its ugly head so often on the oof forum, that i think it could be of real benefit. Fields that I think would be of use would be

Head unit (including part numbers) that it connects to / Changer type / Blaupunkt Part number / Vx Part number / Coded Y/N / fd etc numbers / years fitted / code entry procedure / anything else?

 :-/

What do others think?
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