Removal of the automatic lights thingie

[Joh]

Lol, that should be called "an easy task made easier"

[Joh]

Hey blokes, where's this K59 relay located? Can't find any info from the internet Only about Omega As, I have B year '96.

[Lazydocker]

Joh.... Your English is superb... Much better than my Estonian

[Phil B]

Out of interest, can I therefore add this relay to get my lights to come on with the ignition? Out of preference I drive everywhere with dipped beam, having them come on automatically would be nice

[Chris_H]

Out of interest, can I therefore add this relay to get my lights to come on with the ignition? Out of preference I drive everywhere with dipped beam, having them come on automatically would be nice

But not for motorcyclists who tend to die around cars with headlamps on in the daytime.

[Phil B]

Out of interest, can I therefore add this relay to get my lights to come on with the ignition? Out of preference I drive everywhere with dipped beam, having them come on automatically would be nice

But not for motorcyclists who tend to die around cars with headlamps on in the daytime.

I use my lights all the time as it seems to make other drivers pay a little more attention. I have found it increases the amount of thought some others give to pulling out of t junctions, or changing lane in front of me.

I wasn't aware motorcyclists tended to die around cars using their dipped beam in the day? My sister is a frequent motorcylcist, and she prefers to use her lights when driving her car in the day. My dad is also a seasoned biker and a member of AIM through his advanced bike test, and he's not aware of problems caused by this, or has any problem himself with cars that do this.

If there is a good reason why it might cause danger to bikers though I would gladly change my habit! 

[Dave DND]

Out of interest, can I therefore add this relay to get my lights to come on with the ignition? Out of preference I drive everywhere with dipped beam, having them come on automatically would be nice

But not for motorcyclists who tend to die around cars with headlamps on in the daytime.

I use my lights all the time as it seems to make other drivers pay a little more attention. I have found it increases the amount of thought some others give to pulling out of t junctions, or changing lane in front of me.

I wasn't aware motorcyclists tended to die around cars using their dipped beam in the day? My sister is a frequent motorcylcist, and she prefers to use her lights when driving her car in the day. My dad is also a seasoned biker and a member of AIM through his advanced bike test, and he's not aware of problems caused by this, or has any problem himself with cars that do this.

If there is a good reason why it might cause danger to bikers though I would gladly change my habit! 

I must confess, that I too am a keen biker of many years, and I have never experienced an accident due to headlights being on -

If anything, those that are cautious enough to even consider putting lights on, tend to be the ones who are constantly on the lookout for hazards and possibly make for better drivers?

Wow - are you going to open up a can of worms with this one !!!

[Phil B]

I'm not after any can-o-worms action, I just want a K59 if it's not going to kill anyone!

Anyone got any info for it?

[Andy B]

I think what was trying to be said re bike with lights was ..... bikers tend to ride with lights on whether it's day or night, so they stand out a little from the rest of the crowd. If everybody drove with lights on ....... bikers would just be a nother vehicle on te road with ligfhts on and would no longer stand out in any way.

Digressing slightly ....... 
I wish drivers would put their lights on on first thing in the morning, they presumably can see where they're going so don't think that they need their lights on to be seen! :-? Numpties!!! 

[oceansoul]

iirc; Norwegian, Swedish, Danish, Finnish, Russian, Estonian, Latvian and Lithuanian cars all do the same, Lights on with Engine :p

I too would like to know about this K59 though

[Joh]

Heh, as headlights are obligatory in Estonia 24/7, I'm just too used to expect everyone to use their headlights, whenever, wherever. That, however, has caused many dangerous situations, as your eyes, being so used to search for other lights, often don't registrate vehicles with no lights - you just can't see them. Fortunately, I haven't had any accidents due to that, but I have come close. For example, when going into a roundabout or just some intersection where you have to give way. You look, you see no lights, your perception registrates them as backround and off you go. That is way evil. Sometimes I wish they weren't obligatory, so there couldn't be such situations. But on the other hand, I think it's much better to notice other drivers when THEY DO use their headlights all the time.

And I still haven't found my K59 relay. Haven't really searched either, though