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Re: 03 2.2DTi CD - Replace CDR 2005 and add Amp
« Reply #15 on: 10 August 2009, 11:49:39 »

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Speakers are rated at around 20W from new, and only just cope with the standard head unit - do not use them on your amp at all, or it will get VERY expensive as things rapidly start going bang.

 ::)

I guessed that


Amp levels set to 1/5th power, and will stay that way.

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« Reply #16 on: 11 August 2009, 11:40:55 »

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Check the polarity of all the cables you have run to ensure that +ve and -ve do not change over anywhere or you will end up with a phase imbalance, and yes, that can sound awful.

 ;)

Checked  :y

For the Rear speakers made bugger all difference if I swapped the +ve and -ve speaker wires.  They just sound nasty.  Surprised it made no difference in the sound at all swapping them over,  your post implies something bad would happen if wrong way round  :-/
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« Reply #17 on: 11 August 2009, 11:43:37 »

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New speakers and tweeters all round then

 :-X

you really do have a crystal ball

I have wound the amp up for the rears to 1/2, leaving amp for fronts set at ~1/6th,  its the only way the rears sound anything other than nasty.

This will result in you being right again as

a) rear speakers will blow

or

b) I will get hacked off with the sound, and itch to change the rears.

You are a wise man.
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Re: 03 2.2DTi CD - Replace CDR 2005 and add Amp
« Reply #18 on: 11 August 2009, 12:48:26 »

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you really do have a crystal ball

You are a wise man

Please dont start spreading rumours like that  :-[
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Re: 03 2.2DTi CD - Replace CDR 2005 and add Amp
« Reply #19 on: 11 August 2009, 12:50:20 »

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Check the polarity of all the cables you have run to ensure that +ve and -ve do not change over anywhere or you will end up with a phase imbalance, and yes, that can sound awful.

 ;)

Checked  :y

For the Rear speakers made bugger all difference if I swapped the +ve and -ve speaker wires.  They just sound nasty.  Surprised it made no difference in the sound at all swapping them over,  your post implies something bad would happen if wrong way round  :-/

As you are not running the speakers properly in terms of power, its unlikely you will notice a difference - but phase imbablance of one speaker pushing whilst another pulling can sound awfull, and definately worth spending the time to get correct.

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Re: 03 2.2DTi CD - Replace CDR 2005 and add Amp
« Reply #20 on: 11 August 2009, 17:07:55 »

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New speakers and tweeters all round then

 :-X

Damn you and that ball.

So while I still have the car in bits, what can I replace the rear speakers with in a mid-price range:

http://www.dndservices.co.uk/speakers/

More interested in something that will look stock and not need modifications to the car.  So either a direct replacement for the rear door speakers (assuming its not a big job to strip the door), or rear shelf speakers that will fit under the parcel shelf I have removed, but somehow clear the metal underneath.
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Re: 03 2.2DTi CD - Replace CDR 2005 and add Amp
« Reply #21 on: 11 August 2009, 17:17:32 »

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New speakers and tweeters all round then

 :-X

what make / model / power amp are you running?

What music do you listen to most?
(don`t answer that with "anything" - whats in your CD player at the moemnt)?

Damn you and that ball.

So while I still have the car in bits, what can I replace the rear speakers with in a mid-price range:

http://www.dndservices.co.uk/speakers/

More interested in something that will look stock and not need modifications to the car.  So either a direct replacement for the rear door speakers (assuming its not a big job to strip the door), or rear shelf speakers that will fit under the parcel shelf I have removed, but somehow clear the metal underneath.
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Re: 03 2.2DTi CD - Replace CDR 2005 and add Amp
« Reply #22 on: 12 August 2009, 02:06:08 »


Rally Caliber CA-4520
Box says 520W, 4x130W @ 2 ohms

Click on model number on this page if you want full specification:

http://www.caliber.nl/info_pages.php?pages_id=2&language=en

In no way going for volume, the phonos/speaker wire won't that anywhere near what the amp might claim it can do.

Majority will be whatever is on Radio 1 playlist, and top 10 albums at the time.  Mixed with Bad Company/Free/Lynard Skynard, and more recent USA stuff like Matchbox20/Live.

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« Reply #23 on: 12 August 2009, 09:10:34 »

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Rally Caliber CA-4520
Box says 520W, 4x130W @ 2 ohms

Click on model number on this page if you want full specification:

http://www.caliber.nl/info_pages.php?pages_id=2&language=en

In no way going for volume, the phonos/speaker wire won't that anywhere near what the amp might claim it can do.

Majority will be whatever is on Radio 1 playlist, and top 10 albums at the time.  Mixed with Bad Company/Free/Lynard Skynard, and more recent USA stuff like Matchbox20/Live.


Good amp ! - Needs a good set of speakers to do it justice though.

Most brands will have several "ranges" of speakers - Entry level, mid lever, high level, pro level, or something along those lines. Avoid the lower entry level ones, as despite the spec, they will probably not handle that amp particularly well - look for the next level up at least.

I`ve had good results with Focal and MTX speakers on Caliber amps with chart pop and heavy rock music. I would avoid Infinity or JBL with that amp.

Suggest to nip down to your local car audio store to hear a few and get some model numbers of those within the budget and that you like the sound of. Once you have some model numbers, we can start to look at some good prices for you.

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Re: 03 2.2DTi CD - Replace CDR 2005 and add Amp
« Reply #24 on: 12 August 2009, 11:56:55 »

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I`ve had good results with Focal and MTX speakers on Caliber amps with chart pop and heavy rock music. I would avoid Infinity or JBL with that amp.

Suggest to nip down to your local car audio store to hear a few and get some model numbers of those within the budget and that you like the sound of.

What size (diameter and depth?) would be direct replacements for the current door speakers,  or a fit for the rear shelf?  Or is there an FAQ on this site with those details - not noticed one yet, but there is a lot to get through  :o
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« Reply #25 on: 12 August 2009, 12:00:56 »

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I`ve had good results with Focal and MTX speakers on Caliber amps with chart pop and heavy rock music. I would avoid Infinity or JBL with that amp.

Suggest to nip down to your local car audio store to hear a few and get some model numbers of those within the budget and that you like the sound of.

What size (diameter and depth?) would be direct replacements for the current door speakers,  or a fit for the rear shelf?  Or is there an FAQ on this site with those details - not noticed one yet, but there is a lot to get through  :o

Can someone else assist with speaker sizes and any adaptor rings that are required please?

Not info I have here.
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