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ali

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key wont turn in ignition?
« on: 27 December 2009, 18:25:14 »

Just tried to go out and the key will not turn in the ignition :o Neither will the spare. Just also found out that my son went out to the car tonight and unlocked it with the key, somthing I never do. He then put it in the ignition and HE said it wouldnt turn. Im not sure if he has done something to the immobiliser ::) or has the barrel just gone :( Any help would be great, if not will call out AA tomorrow.
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Re: key wont turn in ignition?
« Reply #1 on: 27 December 2009, 18:35:34 »

Sounds like you might need a new ignition barrel. There is a guide on how to remove it, fairly straightforward. You can still secure the car with the barrel removed. A new one costs around £70 based on your vin number, next day.
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Re: key wont turn in ignition?
« Reply #2 on: 27 December 2009, 18:39:35 »

It will not be using it in the door that has done anything, its meant to be used in the door, Also, not be imobiliser, key would still turn.
  Have you only got one key?
  Sounds like barrel has jammed up. Try it again gently, and take pressure of the steering lock by turning the steering wheel  slightly as you insert and turn the key. Try it a few times if it doesn't work at first.
« Last Edit: 27 December 2009, 18:40:58 by Ken60 »
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Re: key wont turn in ignition?
« Reply #3 on: 27 December 2009, 18:40:08 »

Heres the link http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1213353737

But you can only carry out this procedure with the key moving freely in the ignition barrel. So remove the cowels and then fiddle the key in the barrel, hopefully it will eventually turn. At that stage remove the key and the barrel when exiting the car until you get a replacement.
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Re: key wont turn in ignition?
« Reply #4 on: 27 December 2009, 23:59:47 »

wiggle wheel and turn key. If key does not turn the barrel is gooosed.  New one needed but you should be able to get it matched to the key
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Re: key wont turn in ignition?
« Reply #5 on: 28 December 2009, 00:11:31 »

Might be worth spraying some penetrating fluid or wd40 into the lock and then wiggling the wheel from side to side as you try to turn the key. :-/
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Re: key wont turn in ignition?
« Reply #6 on: 28 December 2009, 12:33:52 »

ok thanks, I have tried giving it a wiggle but no luck. Also sprayed wd40 but no good. I do have a spare key but that has never worked in the ignition, just door. I will go and try to remove it, but steering lock is on so not sure if I can get to screws :-? would the barrel out of my other estate fit?
« Last Edit: 28 December 2009, 14:37:14 by ali »
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Re: key wont turn in ignition?
« Reply #7 on: 28 December 2009, 12:44:06 »

I've got a barrel with matching key blade here if you're stuck Ali :y
« Last Edit: 28 December 2009, 12:44:19 by Welung666 »
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Re: key wont turn in ignition?
« Reply #8 on: 28 December 2009, 14:44:32 »

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I've got a barrel with matching key blade here if you're stuck Ali :y
ok thanks have sent you pm
I cannot get steering wheel lock off so cannot remove screws for cowels. Also found out I do not have home start so AA will not come out :-[ so any other ideas :-?
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Re: key wont turn in ignition?
« Reply #9 on: 28 December 2009, 14:57:27 »

i had a simailer problem when i got a new key,it would open the door lock but not the ing barrel.what i done was get a good quality screw driver and chip away at the ing barrel until all the tumblers were out then turn what was left of the ing barrel to poss two to extract the barrel,a drill might be better to undo the tumblers.
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Re: key wont turn in ignition?
« Reply #10 on: 29 December 2009, 22:42:40 »

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so any other ideas :-?
A slide hammer will easily have the barrel out (with NO damage to anything other than the barrel), which removes the lock, which in turn allows you to replace with new barrel.
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Re: key wont turn in ignition?
« Reply #11 on: 30 December 2009, 16:26:11 »

I had one more go at trying to turn the key and with a little help from some Mazola cooking oil and a bit of a wiggle it moved :D :D so taken off the cowels and removed the old barrel ;D Im about to take it to pieces to see if I can fix it but thanks to Welung666  I have one in the post just in case its past it. So thanks everyone, again  :y :y :y :y :y
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Re: key wont turn in ignition?
« Reply #12 on: 30 December 2009, 16:35:59 »

Nice one  :y What I did was to remove the igintion barrel with the key in it every time I parked up. I carried a small allen key with me. This was until I got a new ignition barrel.
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Re: key wont turn in ignition?
« Reply #13 on: 30 December 2009, 16:53:52 »

While I'm sorting these bits out I'm trying to shift I'll dig out the matching door lock for that key Ali ;) :y
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Re: key wont turn in ignition?
« Reply #14 on: 30 December 2009, 16:57:37 »

Obvioulsy it depnds what's worn, key &/or barrel, but I've built barrels to fit a key ..... it's not too difficult, just requires time & patience.  :y  :y  :y  :y
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