Retrofitting TM and CK-7W

[Lazydocker]

Right, now I've got the LPG sorted and rubber stamped I should start thinking about the TM and H/F kit.

I have both here and also have the Autoleads 06-115b(?) (whatever it is!) suitable for the pre-wired cars with Bose. Mine's already got the telematics so I'm thinking of butchering the autoleads telemute cable to suit my purpose.

I have a fully populated 36 way TM loom and need to know which pins/wires I need to splice the H/F into and I assume it's best done up at the H/U end to run everything over to the passenger kick panel?

Do I need the trickery of the autoleads telemute cable (Bose equipped car) or can I feed directly into the TM loom? I'm referring to the output level control gubbins and the little circuit

I suppose this is probably aimed at TB or VXLV6, being the masters of it I'm planning to get it all prepared and probably fit it at the Lakes where there will be some more knowledgeable people about

[TheBoy]

Well, fit the TM, get that all sorted, as that shouldn't have any bearing on anything.

The CK-7W, we need to test.  Forget the autoleads. Pointless in this scenario.  The one thing we do need to test is levels without isolation transformers (as fitted to prefacelifts). It may well be, the audio can just be joined, and the mute extended to TM loom from CK-7W.  At worse, I have a circuit diagram, which is what I used (but due to Telematics having an issue with the isolation transformers fitted to prefacelifts)

[TheBoy]

Or lose the Telematics, some idiot will buy it

[VXL V6]

Make sure you have the HF kit wired in after the TM so TM sits between HF kit and HU.

[TheBoy]

Make sure you have the HF kit wired in after the TM so TM sits between HF kit and HU.

And the mute wire as well - that how the TM knows

Actually, not sure how well it copes with just Telematics, as no mute wire, therefore the TM unit won't know you are on the phone?

[VXL V6]

Make sure you have the HF kit wired in after the TM so TM sits between HF kit and HU.

And the mute wire as well - that how the TM knows

Actually, not sure how well it copes with just Telematics, as no mute wire, therefore the TM unit won't know you are on the phone?

It's magic 

[Lazydocker]

Sounds like I would be better to just bring the relevant bits to the Lakes

Seems silly to fit the TM and then have to make the connections to it in the car when it could all be done in the comfort of the dining room table :-/ :-/

[TheBoy]

Sounds like I would be better to just bring the relevant bits to the Lakes

Seems silly to fit the TM and then have to make the connections to it in the car when it could all be done in the comfort of the dining room table :-/ :-/

Nah, fit the TM, as that can be time consuming, but add a mute line to the Telematics side of the TM 'T' piece, and bring that out behind glovebox.

[Lazydocker]

Sounds like I would be better to just bring the relevant bits to the Lakes

Seems silly to fit the TM and then have to make the connections to it in the car when it could all be done in the comfort of the dining room table :-/ :-/

Nah, fit the TM, as that can be time consuming, but add a mute line to the Telematics side of the TM 'T' piece, and bring that out behind glovebox.

Surely I need to run Audio and power lines too? Oh... Best get the correct wires to connect to as well I assume I need to do the connections as close to the HU connection as possible?

[VXL V6]

Well you are also going to need a +12V ignition switched as the feed to the Telematics is perm live. You could get that from the glovebox lamp.

Not really sure about hacking into the Telematics car loom unless you could make a sub loom but you'll still be missing some lines, as you say the Trafficmaster sub loom is a better bet IMHO.

[TheBoy]

I believe everything else is availble either from telematics or from nearby

[Lazydocker]

My theory was that I may as well sort all the wiring out before feeding the TM loom in, then it's fairly simple to fit the CK 

[VXL V6]

OK, lets list it:-

+12V Perm - Telematics loom
+12V Switched - Glovebox lamp
0V Ground - Telematics loom
Audio out (to HU) - Telematics loom
Mic - Use Nokia HFM
Mute - Trafficmaster loom (extend line after TM connector)

[Lazydocker]

OK, lets list it:-

+12V Perm - Telematics loom
+12V Switched - Glovebox lamp
0V Ground - Telematics loom
Audio out (to HU) - Telematics loom
Mic - Use Nokia HFM
Mute - Trafficmaster loom (extend line after TM connector)

Oh dear... I'm getting a little confused now

Might be that I've been off the painkillers and on the booze today

[VXL V6]

Thing is... If you are going to route a TM loom then you have to have the HU cage out, if you are doing that it seems sensible to me to run the CK wiring out to the left straight of the ISO (except mute as after TM). At least you won't be hacking the original Telematics wiring.

So in theory I agree with LD!!!