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Re: navtech disc compatibility with ncdc2013
« Reply #15 on: 06 January 2011, 12:22:08 »
so vauxhall needs to pay for it not every user?? insignia doesn't have tmc either?? its new...
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Re: navtech disc compatibility with ncdc2013
« Reply #16 on: 06 January 2011, 13:11:03 »
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so vauxhall needs to pay for it not every user?? insignia doesn't have tmc either?? its new...


Yes, Vauxhall added the TMC function without realising that unlike the rest of Europe, TMC is licensed and paid for seperately in the UK, and as such the system was never activated for Vauxhall to allow the user to then pay an additional susbscription charge.

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Re: navtech disc compatibility with ncdc2013
« Reply #17 on: 06 January 2011, 18:25:17 »
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Didn`t think any of the Vx range used the TMC data ?

Didn`t think they spent on the licensing needed to make it work in the UK - could be wrong and thinking of something else though, but I know there is something that Vx woudln`t spend out on.
I believe the later range, CD70 etc, did have TMC.

There is a rumour going around that the new map does enable TMC on the NCDx range, but cannot get any confirmation.  Navteq are as much use as a used condom smeared in dogshit when presented with technical questions.
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Re: navtech disc compatibility with ncdc2013
« Reply #18 on: 06 January 2011, 18:28:45 »
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The 'fee' is included the map subscription, and the map supplier pays TMCUK
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Re: navtech disc compatibility with ncdc2013
« Reply #19 on: 06 January 2011, 19:58:35 »
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Didn`t think any of the Vx range used the TMC data ?

Didn`t think they spent on the licensing needed to make it work in the UK - could be wrong and thinking of something else though, but I know there is something that Vx woudln`t spend out on.
I had a vectra renter a couple of years ago that had it working.
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Re: navtech disc compatibility with ncdc2013
« Reply #20 on: 07 January 2011, 12:35:25 »
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Didn`t think any of the Vx range used the TMC data ?

Didn`t think they spent on the licensing needed to make it work in the UK - could be wrong and thinking of something else though, but I know there is something that Vx woudln`t spend out on.
I had a vectra renter a couple of years ago that had it working.
CD70s have UK TMC.  The jury is still out on NCDC range.

NCDC range works with free, unencrypted TMC, as found in France etc.  Certainly, up to and including 2009/2010 maps, NCDC units are unable to decrypt the UK TMC messages.

The jury is still out on the 2010/2011 NCDC maps. These need (and include) a one-way system software update, and one of the enhancements is 'improved TMC performance' according to some of the docs. Some sites have suggested it may enable UK TMC from Classic or via the Heart network.  Yet, apart from one dodgy seller, nobody can guarantee/confirm this.
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Re: navtech disc compatibility with ncdc2013
« Reply #21 on: 07 January 2011, 12:41:36 »
so is the software update only on the 2010/11 edition then? and the previous versions are happy to operate with the 'old' firmware? i.e. 2009 and beforehand should be 'disc in > play' whereas later edition needs the software update first?
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Re: navtech disc compatibility with ncdc2013
« Reply #22 on: 07 January 2011, 15:10:24 »
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so is the software update only on the 2010/11 edition then? and the previous versions are happy to operate with the 'old' firmware? i.e. 2009 and beforehand should be 'disc in > play' whereas later edition needs the software update first?
Earlier versions did occasionally upgrade (and downgrade if reverted to earlier disk). Seems 2011 doesn't allow rollback, and update comes on separate cd.

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Re: navtech disc compatibility with ncdc2013
« Reply #23 on: 07 January 2011, 23:05:58 »
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Re: navtech disc compatibility with ncdc2013
« Reply #24 on: 24 January 2011, 11:28:36 »
continuing the same thread, is there a language option on the navteq discs? were they all the same from factory irrespective of the territory they were sold in, and just configured in the car? there is no mention of language on any of the sales ads i've seen and didn't want to end up driving around the uk with german instructions.

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Re: navtech disc compatibility with ncdc2013
« Reply #25 on: 24 January 2011, 11:56:38 »
they have the same language as your bc.. mine was in german, the cd was from germany and changed the language in my bc and thats gone, all is in english, including the female voice(The navigation sistem is ready) :P
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Re: navtech disc compatibility with ncdc2013
« Reply #26 on: 24 January 2011, 12:13:53 »
I'd also like to know if TMC system can be 'switched on' with the latest maps.  I've got the 09/10 maps but would be willing to upgrade if the TMC can be activated,
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Re: navtech disc compatibility with ncdc2013
« Reply #27 on: 24 January 2011, 14:17:57 »
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Re: navtech disc compatibility with ncdc2013
« Reply #28 on: 24 January 2011, 14:41:53 »
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« Reply #29 on: 24 January 2011, 16:56:51 »
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I think it is BC - board computer  ;)

yep.. thanx for that.. in my 2015 there is a button with bc on it and from there i can acess the language settings :)
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