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[feeutfo]

the debate in office started as somebody was insistent that the right lane for 1st roundabout is for u-turn ONLY

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I bet he or she drives you round the bend boom boom mind you they probably get there in a roundabout way sorry i am only a junior when i grow up i will be more serious

I bet you haven't been called a junior recently

  i am begining to like it now i feel like a school boy again i feel like I am a school boy again mr administrator sir 

Steady, you'll start him off again!

[Varche]

In Spain, the driving schools teach you to be in the nearside lane to turn off at any exit! Worse I believe that you don't have to indicate either. I have always assumed that Spanish cars have their indicator bulbs removed as part of pre delivery checks.

I love that The Boy junction.

[aaronjb]

In Spain, the driving schools teach you to be in the nearside lane to turn off at any exit! Worse I believe that you don't have to indicate either. I have always assumed that Spanish cars have their indicator bulbs removed as part of pre delivery checks.

I love that The Boy junction.

Like BMWs?

[Rods2]

A friend of mine who is a Honda Accord driver, would say, I will just aim for where I'm going and the traffic will sort itself around me.  Whenever I've been in his car I've never heard so many car horns on journeys. 

He would never indicate anywhere as he knew where he was going, until his wife started complaining that he did not indicate enough, so every so often he would put on an indicator, the trouble was it was random and rarely co-in-sided with his intentions. 

I'm a nervous passenger in a car (fine when I'm driving), after any journey with him my adrenaline would be off the scale.

[2woody]

The "right" arrow on the carriageway will mean right turn at the second roundabout, not U-turn.

U-turn is never painted on the road surface itself and I'd be expecting to see a no U-turn sign as well.

In actual fact, it doesn't matter if that arrow means right at first roundabout (U-turn) or right at the second one, you'd not be going across the left lane in either case.

Left lane appears to be marked straight-on only.

so you have......

Left lane at immediate mini-roundabout is for either turning immediate left or going straight-on at the second mini-roundabout.

Right lane at immediate mini-roundabout is for either U-turn or going right at the second mini-roundabout.

[LJay]

I'd just take the shortest, most direct route possible accross the roundabout to get where I wanted to be!  I'm a woman driver I make up rules as I go along!

Have given up going around roundabouts locally as lanes don't appear to mean anything.

With regards to TBs pic I'd use left lane to go left and straight on and right lane to go right and full circle. Depending on traffic flow I'd also turn left from right lane as 2 lanes on exit or right lane to go straight on if clear to do so.

[TheBoy]

The "right" arrow on the carriageway will mean right turn at the second roundabout, not U-turn.

U-turn is never painted on the road surface itself and I'd be expecting to see a no U-turn sign as well.

In actual fact, it doesn't matter if that arrow means right at first roundabout (U-turn) or right at the second one, you'd not be going across the left lane in either case.

Left lane appears to be marked straight-on only.

so you have......

Left lane at immediate mini-roundabout is for either turning immediate left or going straight-on at the second mini-roundabout.

Right lane at immediate mini-roundabout is for either U-turn or going right at the second mini-roundabout.

Street view (slightly more up to date) does show left lane as left or straight on.

U turns are common at that rounadbout, as there is an entrance to a retail park that you cannot turn right into from direction of travel indicated.

[TheBoy]

It seems its an argument I cannot win - the guy has had an advanced driving instructor tell him that left lane is for left and straight on, and right is for u-turn only, and that the lane markings can only apply to first roundabout only.

[Kevin Wood]

It seems its an argument I cannot win - the guy has had an advanced driving instructor tell him that left lane is for left and straight on, and right is for u-turn only, and that the lane markings can only apply to first roundabout only.

I guess you're not going to laugh much when he has a prang, then?

[Lazydocker]

It seems its an argument I cannot win - the guy has had an advanced driving instructor tell him that left lane is for left and straight on, and right is for u-turn only, and that the lane markings can only apply to first roundabout only.

I'd disagree with that on the basis that they are linked mini roundabouts so the markings apply to the complete junction

Certainly a similar situation in Ipswich is treated as one junction WRT the markings but each roundabout is treated separately 

[TheBoy]

It seems its an argument I cannot win - the guy has had an advanced driving instructor tell him that left lane is for left and straight on, and right is for u-turn only, and that the lane markings can only apply to first roundabout only.

I'd disagree with that on the basis that they are linked mini roundabouts so the markings apply to the complete junction

Certainly a similar situation in Ipswich is treated as one junction WRT the markings but each roundabout is treated separately 

the counter argument is, according to this chap, each should be treated as entirely seperate things...

[Lazydocker]

It seems its an argument I cannot win - the guy has had an advanced driving instructor tell him that left lane is for left and straight on, and right is for u-turn only, and that the lane markings can only apply to first roundabout only.

I'd disagree with that on the basis that they are linked mini roundabouts so the markings apply to the complete junction

Certainly a similar situation in Ipswich is treated as one junction WRT the markings but each roundabout is treated separately 

the counter argument is, according to this chap, each should be treated as entirely seperate things...

My understanding (right or wrong), and the way I would approach it from a HGV point of view, is that the roundabouts are treated individually but the junction as a whole from the road marking point of view.

Had to navigate a similar type of junction as part of both my HGV and Bike tests and treated as above (and how you would by the sounds of it ) and passed both with no minors/observations for road positioning or junction navigation

[TheBoy]

It seems its an argument I cannot win - the guy has had an advanced driving instructor tell him that left lane is for left and straight on, and right is for u-turn only, and that the lane markings can only apply to first roundabout only.

I'd disagree with that on the basis that they are linked mini roundabouts so the markings apply to the complete junction

Certainly a similar situation in Ipswich is treated as one junction WRT the markings but each roundabout is treated separately 

the counter argument is, according to this chap, each should be treated as entirely seperate things...

My understanding (right or wrong), and the way I would approach it from a HGV point of view, is that the roundabouts are treated individually but the junction as a whole from the road marking point of view.

Had to navigate a similar type of junction as part of both my HGV and Bike tests and treated as above (and how you would by the sounds of it ) and passed both with no minors/observations for road positioning or junction navigation

I passed my 1st car test and 2nd bike test with no minors mentioned to me

I failed the first bike test by putting a foot down on the U-Turn - when we got back, the examiner chatted to my instructor, who then said I was a ****ing idiot, as the examiner had told him "I had pissed the rest of the test perfectly"    (which I think gave me the confidence to carry on with it (it had been a stressful DAS course, with the other rider (who also failed the test) having fallen off at 60mph and ended in a ditch - but fair play, still turned up the next day)).

Obviously, learning to drive/ride to pass a test is entirely different from learning to drive/ride properly, as I'm sure those who have done advnaced driving courses will agree...

[Lazydocker]

Obviously, learning to drive/ride to pass a test is entirely different from learning to drive/ride properly, as I'm sure those who have done advnaced driving courses will agree...

Agreed... But if they can't get it right at test time what hope do the rest of us have