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[cem_devecioglu]

Hmm. We already have an area to warn about traders who have proved troublesome.

Is there really a need to congratulate everyone else for making it to the post office?

Kevin , in my case it was a "bit" more complicated as it was a letter of 30 kgs cargo  with necessary customs papers and invoice.. 

If a member truly has gone beyond the call of duty then there's no harm in posting a special note of thanks, IMHO.

I'm just not convinced a huge thread of "Item received as described" would be of much benefit, and, as said, it would have the potential to be a catalyst for trouble when disagreements occur, sadly.

I have seen in some sites the number of sucessful trades / positive feedback.. this will give an important info at least..

I dont think a newbie buying some parts from any member without any info and having problems later will save us from headaches..(I know there is a sticky warning thread but newbies in rush may not see it)

not sure.. but thats not an easy subject in every respect..

[aaronjb]

Another forum I'm on has a whole section of the forum dedicated to "Buyer/seller feedback" - one thread per person is the only way of managing it (otherwise you can never find the feedback about person X when you're looking anyway).. but;

It works fine when people leave positive feedback
Negative feedback always turns into a shouting match between involved parties and does nothing but make everyone involved look like fools.. and requires a ton of moderator intervention..

JMHO

[TheBoy]

Hmm. We already have an area to warn about traders who have proved troublesome.

Is there really a need to congratulate everyone else for making it to the post office?

Kevin , in my case it was a "bit" more complicated as it was a letter of 30 kgs cargo  with necessary customs papers and invoice.. 

If a member truly has gone beyond the call of duty then there's no harm in posting a special note of thanks, IMHO.

I'm just not convinced a huge thread of "Item received as described" would be of much benefit, and, as said, it would have the potential to be a catalyst for trouble when disagreements occur, sadly.

I have seen in some sites the number of sucessful trades / positive feedback.. this will give an important info at least..

I dont think a newbie buying some parts from any member without any info and having problems later will save us from headaches..(I know there is a sticky warning thread but newbies in rush may not see it)

not sure.. but thats not an easy subject in every respect..

we could probably build such a system, but why, when ebay has done that already

[TheBoy]

imho, buyjng/selling should be a small part of the site. Obviously, those who are trying to use OOF to make a few quid probably see it as the most important part.

[hotel21]

Another forum I'm on has a whole section of the forum dedicated to "Buyer/seller feedback" - one thread per person is the only way of managing it (otherwise you can never find the feedback about person X when you're looking anyway).. but;

It works fine when people leave positive feedback
Negative feedback always turns into a shouting match between involved parties and does nothing but make everyone involved look like fools.. and requires a ton of moderator intervention..

JMHO

     
Which is my point.

The sales area already confines the cack comments to one cack area.  Why enlarge it?

 

[hotel21]

imho, buyjng/selling should be a small part of the site. Obviously, those who are trying to use OOF to make a few quid probably see it as the most important part.

Exactomundo.

The sales area is for sales.

Car problem areas are for informed, accurate,correct, diagnosis of problems.  Not repair by substitution of parts which, in the best Blue Peter tradition, 'heres one I prepared (removed from a car and is for sale if you want it) earlier'.....

 

[cem_devecioglu]

Hmm. We already have an area to warn about traders who have proved troublesome.

Is there really a need to congratulate everyone else for making it to the post office?

Kevin , in my case it was a "bit" more complicated as it was a letter of 30 kgs cargo  with necessary customs papers and invoice.. 

If a member truly has gone beyond the call of duty then there's no harm in posting a special note of thanks, IMHO.

I'm just not convinced a huge thread of "Item received as described" would be of much benefit, and, as said, it would have the potential to be a catalyst for trouble when disagreements occur, sadly.

I have seen in some sites the number of sucessful trades / positive feedback.. this will give an important info at least..

I dont think a newbie buying some parts from any member without any info and having problems later will save us from headaches..(I know there is a sticky warning thread but newbies in rush may not see it)

not sure.. but thats not an easy subject in every respect..

we could probably build such a system, but why, when ebay has done that already

Ok .. time to share what I have in mind.. members who want to use buying/selling , may pay few quids to enter with their real identities and adresses to admin.. so at least will pay some of the costs and members entering the zone will be more safe.. imo..

[hotel21]

Hmm. We already have an area to warn about traders who have proved troublesome.

Is there really a need to congratulate everyone else for making it to the post office?

Kevin , in my case it was a "bit" more complicated as it was a letter of 30 kgs cargo  with necessary customs papers and invoice.. 

If a member truly has gone beyond the call of duty then there's no harm in posting a special note of thanks, IMHO.

I'm just not convinced a huge thread of "Item received as described" would be of much benefit, and, as said, it would have the potential to be a catalyst for trouble when disagreements occur, sadly.

I have seen in some sites the number of sucessful trades / positive feedback.. this will give an important info at least..

I dont think a newbie buying some parts from any member without any info and having problems later will save us from headaches..(I know there is a sticky warning thread but newbies in rush may not see it)

not sure.. but thats not an easy subject in every respect..

we could probably build such a system, but why, when ebay has done that already

Ok .. time to share what I have in mind.. members who want to use buying/selling , may pay few quids to enter with their real identities and adresses to admin.. so at least will pay some of the costs and members entering the zone will be more safe.. imo..

I'll stick my neck out a tad here and give what I think will be the concerted Admin viewpoint.

No.

[millwall]

i would of thought if you are using for sale or wanted sections chances are a long term member with bundles of posts would generally be more trustworthy than a recent member with 250 posts and loads of sale ads  to be honest if you arent prepared to trust fellow members then use the various auction sites  in my opinion the sale and wanted sections are only a minor section of a great community 

[cem_devecioglu]

i would of thought if you are using for sale or wanted sections chances are a long term member with bundles of posts would generally be more trustworthy than a recent member with 250 posts and loads of sale ads  to be honest if you arent prepared to trust fellow members then use the various auction sites  in my opinion the sale and wanted sections are only a minor section of a great community 

yep..most members think in this way including me..however, this leads to new members hardly selling/buying..

[millwall]

i would of thought if you are using for sale or wanted sections chances are a long term member with bundles of posts would generally be more trustworthy than a recent member with 250 posts and loads of sale ads  to be honest if you arent prepared to trust fellow members then use the various auction sites  in my opinion the sale and wanted sections are only a minor section of a great community 

yep..most members think in this way including me..however, this leads to new members hardly selling/buying..

good point

[hotel21]

In summation, why do you think we have had to have a 250 postcount for the section?  And that we do try to enforce it, in particular with sellers?  Buyers with less than 250 posts (generally newbies) are allowed to post wanted in the test section and its then moved for them.   

[cem_devecioglu]

In summation, why do you think we have had to have a 250 postcount for the section?  And that we do try to enforce it, in particular with sellers?  Buyers with less than 250 posts (generally newbies) are allowed to post wanted in the test section and its then moved for them.   

agreed with you hotel21.. but this still doesnt guarantee anything for good sellers

[hotel21]

In summation, why do you think we have had to have a 250 postcount for the section?  And that we do try to enforce it, in particular with sellers?  Buyers with less than 250 posts (generally newbies) are allowed to post wanted in the test section and its then moved for them.   

agreed with you hotel21.. but this still doesnt guarantee anything for good sellers

But what does?

A seller is only as good as his last deal.  If you want feedback to refer to before buying, then buy/sell on E-bay.  They have the mechanism already figured out.   

[Entwood]

2p's worth ....   

OOF is/was/should be a forum for discussion/repair/help in the running/repairing/maintaining of Omega's

General Discussion and the Buying/Selling sections should be MINOR aspects of the forum, however they seem to have become, in some folks eyes at least, the more important sections.

It is interesting to note that all the "wars" that have occured in the past and lead to folks throwing numerous teddies out of cots or in some cases leaving in whatever manner, have all been over items in Gen Dis and/or Sales.

I can fully understand the frustration Admin/Mods must get in trying to police Sales, and despite their concerted efforts, and oft repeated requests, there are still "uninformative" posts .... look now and there are at least 5 "for Sale" threads that say nothing at all about the items offered. Total shambles IMHO.

Rather than loosening the reins I would prefer to see really hard (ie delete if incorrect) modding of the Sales section. Perhaps the use of a "standard format" for sales items (and delete if not followed) would actually make it more "buyer friendly" in the longer term ??