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[Markjay]

http://www.mailonsunday.co.uk/pages/live/articles/health/healthmain.html?in_article_id=527148&in_page_id=1774


In a nut shell...

Male student meets female student outside a bar at Cambridge uni. Male student has been drinking. Female student had according to her account '4 or 5 shots of Malibu'. Male invites female to his room to continue drinking, female accepts.

Male and female kiss. Female admits consenting. Male starts groping, female says 'no thank you' and goes away.

Shortly after female comes back to male room, 'looking for part needed to fix a broken computer'. Male pins female to the floor, takes her clothes off (but not his), performs 'simulated sex' with her, tries to put his hand into her knickers. Female 'telling him to stop over and over again'. Finally female says stop, male stops, lets female go.

Male stands trial for sexual assault.

No comment.  

[Martin_1962]

2 drunken idiots

[Markjay]

OK, I will comment....

Why is it that people (men or women) can get drunk, go into someone's room and have a snog, and then shout rape? This is a nanny state, people are not expected to take responsibility for their actions any more. Whatever happens to them, it is always someone else's fault. Just like the cyclist that jumped a red light and got hit by a woman texting on her mobile. He died, but hey he only jumped a red light, surely it must be someone else's fault???

[zippo]

http://www.mailonsunday.co.uk/pages/live/articles/health/healthmain.html?in_article_id=527148&in_page_id=1774


In a nut shell...

Male student meets female student outside a bar at Cambridge uni. Male student has been drinking. Female student had according to her account '4 or 5 shots of Malibu'. Male invites female to his room to continue drinking, female accepts.

Male and female kiss. Female admits consenting. Male starts groping, female says 'no thank you' and goes away.

Shortly after female comes back to male room, 'looking for part needed to fix a broken computer'. Male pins female to the floor, takes her clothes off (but not his), performs 'simulated sex' with her, tries to put his hand into her knickers. Female 'telling him to stop over and over again'. Finally female says stop, male stops, lets female go.

Male stands trial for sexual assault.

No comment.  



does that not count as force

[davlad22]

I'm half and half with you mate....

- On one hand it's very difficult to obtain accurate factual information when both parties are 'drunk' so information shouldn't be taken at face value.

- On the other hand, sex has to be consented to even in marriage so forcing someone against their will must be seen as rape?

And the woman texting on her phone should receive a slightly reduced sentence for dangerous driving. The cyclist, well he's dead so paid the ultimate price. Simple really?  

[Markjay]

I agree with everything that has been said here.... what I am trying to say is that no blame seem to be allocated to those who put themselves in dangerous situations or in harms way, which I think is wrong. This is not to say that the texting driver should have been acquitted... just to say that in my view it is wrong to portray the cyclist's as if it was his god-given right to cycle through red lights, or for women to wilfully have drunken snogging sessions with fellow students in the dormitory and assume that their (heavily drunk) partner can be switched on and off like a light bulb. In either case, where is the admission that they do, while victims, got it wrong?

[TheBoy]

I suspect we don't know the full story, as media will twist to make it sensational.

[cem_devecioglu]

Being drunk dont changes nothing..What ?

When you are drunk you put your brain aside ?

Entering the male room, kissing and stopping !!

this female must come from Mars

[Markjay]

Being drunk dont changes nothing..What ?

When you are drunk you put your brain aside ?

Entering the male room, kissing and stopping !!

this female must come from Mars

No. From England.

[Elite Pete]

This is what I think.
Most (not all) men will try to get their leg over on the first date (some not all) females will let them, but some might fancy the lad thats invited her back to his room and not mind a kiss and cuddle but not want to go the whole way on their first date and when the fella goes to far and she says stop that means stop. Its got to be the hardest thing to prove what went on in the room, its one persons say against another and theres only two people who know the real truth.

[106rallye]

what a load of crap and a waste of police time. the girl doesnt even sound bothered.

after drinking that much absinth i doubt he could of done anything even if he wanted to.

[Kevin Wood]

Who knows what really happened? Neither of the 2 involved let alone anyone else by the sounds of it.

If a member of the opposite sex were to rip my clothes off against my will and simulate sex with me (just my luck it'd be simulated too) there'd be some physical evidence of a striggle somewhere. Ripped clothes, bruises, etc.

Maybe there was such evidence, in which case he rightly should be up before the beak. If it's just the case that she had a change of heart and there was no struggle sounds like he did the right thing.

.. and who worries about bits for their PC when wandering around bladdered after a night out?

Kevin

[Markjay]

Apparently, I am not alone in this...:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=528568&in_page_id=1770&ct=5

[brett1408]

dodgy teritory, it happened to a really close mate of mine some years back, he lost his job, girlfriend and most of his mates over it, i totally believed him and stuck by him throughout.  2 sides to every story and all that

[albitz]

it got thrown out of court,she didnt even bother reporting it for 5 months,thing is the bloke is now stuck with the allegation/press coverage etc;