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Re: Brake Upgrade Advice
« Reply #1 on: 01 October 2011, 22:04:08 »

Just wondering what you think is wrong with Vauxhall's brakes? :)
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Re: Brake Upgrade Advice
« Reply #2 on: 01 October 2011, 22:07:48 »

you'd be going some to overcook standard gm brakes on a 2.2 :o

even in my 3.0l across Milton Keynes, I have to really try to get serious fade
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Re: Brake Upgrade Advice
« Reply #3 on: 01 October 2011, 22:20:52 »

I am updating it for next years Rally for Heroes 3000 mile trip in 5 day.

I will be going around Top Gear test track, Le Mans, Monaco, Hockenhiem, nurburgring.
Also up and over the Alps on the Stevlio Pass

So brakes will be used very hard and get quite hot.
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Re: Brake Upgrade Advice
« Reply #4 on: 01 October 2011, 22:23:56 »

for track use, I would beef mine up :y
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Re: Brake Upgrade Advice
« Reply #5 on: 01 October 2011, 22:24:12 »

although not sure about their ceramic percentage , ceramic brakes need to be very hot to work efficiently.. for normal driving (ie pads cold) in case of urgency, it wont brake the car like the standard pads..
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Re: Brake Upgrade Advice
« Reply #6 on: 01 October 2011, 22:25:07 »

 ::)  must type faster.. :P
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Re: Brake Upgrade Advice
« Reply #7 on: 01 October 2011, 22:25:45 »

yeah, even things like ebc redstuff catch me out - they cool on motorways, then don't work ;D
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Re: Brake Upgrade Advice
« Reply #8 on: 01 October 2011, 22:41:35 »

yeah, even things like ebc redstuff catch me out - they cool on motorways, then don't work ;D

So would you go for Green stuff then over Red?
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Re: Brake Upgrade Advice
« Reply #9 on: 01 October 2011, 22:55:16 »

yeah, even things like ebc redstuff catch me out - they cool on motorways, then don't work ;D

So would you go for Green stuff then over Red?

My own preference is for EBC 'Green Stuff' pads with Vx discs all-round  :y

Generally, there's a good 'feel' to the pedal, and much less dust - and look at the terrain of The Valleys! ;)
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Re: Brake Upgrade Advice
« Reply #10 on: 02 October 2011, 09:05:31 »

Or potentially consider OE pads (different from the aftermarket £15 ones you get from dealer). Not sure if man enough for track still....
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Re: Brake Upgrade Advice
« Reply #11 on: 02 October 2011, 13:16:14 »

I'm having some kind of DejaVu here (must have said this to someone before) but .. do you have to use the Omega for some reason? Given the distances involved and amount of fuel you'll use dragging a weighty (underpowered if we're talking a 4cyl) between and around those places .. you might as well spend a grand on a cheap MX5; you'll have an awful lot more fun on track, won't need to bother upgrading the brakes and probably save money on the fuel...

JMHO, but the Omega would be far from my first choice of car to take on track :)
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Re: Brake Upgrade Advice
« Reply #12 on: 02 October 2011, 14:26:14 »

I'm having some kind of DejaVu here (must have said this to someone before) but .. do you have to use the Omega for some reason? Given the distances involved and amount of fuel you'll use dragging a weighty (underpowered if we're talking a 4cyl) between and around those places .. you might as well spend a grand on a cheap MX5; you'll have an awful lot more fun on track, won't need to bother upgrading the brakes and probably save money on the fuel...

JMHO, but the Omega would be far from my first choice of car to take on track :)

Why would I want to
A) spend good money on another car when I already have a very good one that does 50 mpg
B) not be able to get 4 people and luggage in the car with ease

I will surely have some fun even in a car of it's size and show some of the sceptics that Omegas can do the same things that smaller faster motors can do ;-)
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Re: Brake Upgrade Advice
« Reply #13 on: 02 October 2011, 16:50:48 »

EBC pads are a "marmite" choice. Some love them, some hate them.

Despite their claim that they bite well from cold, I'd expect that they probably don't work as well as standard pads from cold. Not an issue for the track, or the alps, but might catch you out, as mentioned.

I would have thought green stuff would get cooked on that sort of a trip. I have heard claims that they won't stand up to much hard driving in a Westfield / Caterham let alone an Omega with 4 people plus luggage. ;)

For the price of those red stuff you could have 4 sets of standard pads. That's probably the way I'd go.

As for the cross drilled, grooved disks, I wouldn't bother. It's cosmetic.
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Re: Brake Upgrade Advice
« Reply #14 on: 02 October 2011, 21:46:19 »

If your getting 50mpg your stock brakes will be fine.

But haven't ebc added another grade between green and red? Fast road use?  I wouldn't fit red pads for road use personally.
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