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Re: Brake Upgrade Advice
« Reply #15 on: 02 October 2011, 21:53:39 »

But haven't ebc added another grade between green and red? Fast road use?  I wouldn't fit red pads for road use personally.

They had Black->Green->Red->Yellow, now they've got Blue and Orange coming this month.. Orange is track only, Blue is 'track for road' apparently, tested to some EU regulation for brakes..

Personally I've tried green (alright, better than it used to be but really no better than stock on the MR2) and yellow (prior to Orange & Blue, their 'track' pad) which has great bite from cold and no fade at all (though the MR2 is ~700Kg lighter than the Omega, that's a lot less inertia to stop).. Having tried green & yellow, I wouldn't even bother considering green or red anymore..
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Re: Brake Upgrade Advice
« Reply #16 on: 02 October 2011, 22:07:28 »

I dont know anything better than good tires for braking.. a chain is as strong as its weakest part ..
 
so I would invest good quality tires first :y
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Re: Brake Upgrade Advice
« Reply #17 on: 02 October 2011, 22:23:21 »



Why would I want to
A) spend good money on another car when I already have a very good one that does 50 mpg
B) not be able to get 4 people and luggage in the car with ease

so what model of omega gets 50 mpg?
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Re: Brake Upgrade Advice
« Reply #18 on: 02 October 2011, 22:24:06 »



Why would I want to
A) spend good money on another car when I already have a very good one that does 50 mpg
B) not be able to get 4 people and luggage in the car with ease

so what model of omega gets 50 mpg?

DTi  :y
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Re: Brake Upgrade Advice
« Reply #19 on: 03 October 2011, 06:23:53 »

If your getting 50mpg your stock brakes will be fine.

But haven't ebc added another grade between green and red? Fast road use?  I wouldn't fit red pads for road use personally.

Yes they have (see posts above). Pagid (if you can find any for Omegas) or Ferodo I would recommend for the sort of driving you'll be doing. 8)

Don't go anywhere near Green/Red stuff for an Omega. :'(

Matthew
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Re: Brake Upgrade Advice
« Reply #20 on: 03 October 2011, 07:33:55 »



Why would I want to
A) spend good money on another car when I already have a very good one that does 50 mpg
B) not be able to get 4 people and luggage in the car with ease

so what model of omega gets 50 mpg?

Mine ;-) Omega 2.2dti 16v
Mine at present doing town runs averages 41.6mpg and on a good motorway run gets average 49.6 - 51.7 mpg
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Re: Brake Upgrade Advice
« Reply #21 on: 03 October 2011, 08:48:29 »

If your getting 50mpg your stock brakes will be fine.

But haven't ebc added another grade between green and red? Fast road use?  I wouldn't fit red pads for road use personally.

Yes they have (see posts above). Pagid (if you can find any for Omegas) or Ferodo I would recommend for the sort of driving you'll be doing. 8)

Don't go anywhere near Green/Red stuff for an Omega. :'(

Matthew
Whilst I'm sure Ferodo make some decent pads, the ones Hellfrauds sell are hopeless on an Omega (and far more expensive than the better TC pad)
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Re: Brake Upgrade Advice
« Reply #22 on: 03 October 2011, 13:14:15 »

I've got plenty of experience on Omega brakes - and I used to be a brake designer, too......

it's a "swings and roundabouts" thing really. There are pad meterials which are good at working from cold and those which are good at working from hot - there are no pads good at both.

You need to have a think about what you really want as a priority.....

something like yellowstuff will work on the track admirably, but they don't heat up well from cold - a factor which you need to bear in mind on motorways.

a standard pad will work well from cold, but probably won't last a half lap of the 'ring.

I personally don't rate Omega brakes at all - their heat-handling capability is very poor. Even in the 2.6 I can fade the pads every night on the way home from work. And don't even start me on vibrations. I guess it's the price to be paid for a design originating on 14" wheels.

For your venture, I'd recommend yellowstuff, but bear this in mind on motorways.

For my track-day cars that I MUST retain Omega brakes, I use yellowstuff and change them every day ( including discs )

For the track car that I DRIVE,  I have a 350mm disc/caliper set that I swap round. Again with yellowstuff.

on a slightly different front, brake pads are all very similar to one another. They all must pass the EU directive to be allowed on sale, so their quality is all the same. There is no such thing as a "bad" make of pads. The only thing that manufacturers are really able to do different in the heat range that they're effective in.
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