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[brett1408]

anyone else seen it ? they want to make your isp monitor any downloading of films, music, ect, peer to peer sites, ares, bearshare all that type of stuff, bit torrents, and if you dl any copyrighted stuff you're not paying for they want to shut down your internet connection. going a bit far i recon, just cos some multi billion pound pop star somewhere's realised they're not selling as many singles as they used to probably ! while on the subject, which sites do you use, i've always used ares and think its brilliant, never had a virus or a problem, for bit torrents i use u torrent, the fastest and the best !

[Martin_1962]

anyone else seen it ? they want to make your isp monitor any downloading of films, music, ect, peer to peer sites, ares, bearshare all that type of stuff, bit torrents, and if you dl any copyrighted stuff you're not paying for they want to shut down your internet connection. going a bit far i recon, just cos some multi billion pound pop star somewhere's realised they're not selling as many singles as they used to probably ! while on the subject, which sites do you use, i've always used ares and think its brilliant, never had a virus or a problem, for bit torrents i use u torrent, the fastest and the best !

Stuff the public US companies are more important

[brett1408]

anyone else seen it ? they want to make your isp monitor any downloading of films, music, ect, peer to peer sites, ares, bearshare all that type of stuff, bit torrents, and if you dl any copyrighted stuff you're not paying for they want to shut down your internet connection. going a bit far i recon, just cos some multi billion pound pop star somewhere's realised they're not selling as many singles as they used to probably ! while on the subject, which sites do you use, i've always used ares and think its brilliant, never had a virus or a problem, for bit torrents i use u torrent, the fastest and the best !

Stuff the public US companies are more important

      thats all it is yes !

[PaulW]

Old news...

No real way of policing this either, unless there are major changes to the data protection act.  Plus, how can they identify lawful torrents (ie, linux iso's, game demo downloads, etc) from none-legal ones?

Plus ISP's have already turned round and said no to the governments 3 strike rule about this.

[brett1408]

Old news...

No real way of policing this either, unless there are major changes to the data protection act.  Plus, how can they identify lawful torrents (ie, linux iso's, game demo downloads, etc) from none-legal ones?

Plus ISP's have already turned round and said no to the governments 3 strike rule about this.

  thats good, i did'nt know that, only just read about it online, been busy up until now............ !

[waspy]

I heard about this a few weeks back on the radio. I'de like to know how they're gona police it. Just another arse justifying their well paid shiny arse jobs in Whitehall i expect  

[albitz]

the powers that be (gov.,conglomerates etc;)dont seem to like the freedom that people can have with the internet.its difficult for them to tax it,control it,etc; but the few really dangerous areas that need controlling dont seem to be under control,maybe because they cant make profit from stopping such things

[TheBoy]

Yup, thats been on the cards for a while, and ISPs are busy looking at ways of implementing the systems to actually monitor it

[TheBoy]

Although its a similar argument that was around when AUP/FUP etc came in, ruining the network for those using their connections legally (and very few people can download 50+Gb legally for home use, let alone 100+Gb).

And why do people think they can get stuff without paying?

[Richie London]

if you go into covent garden you will see all the foreginers selling pirate videos on the streets, nobody does nothing about it, ive watched the police walk straight past them and not even bat an eyelid. they tour the pubs all weekend near me selling pirates.

richie

[Martin_1962]

Although its a similar argument that was around when AUP/FUP etc came in, ruining the network for those using their connections legally (and very few people can download 50+Gb legally for home use, let alone 100+Gb).

And why do people think they can get stuff without paying?

Most of it is TV not available internationally, so noone is actually losing, my first torrent was a programme I already owned 4 series on DVD and the final mini series was delayed by quite a few months iin the UK (in fact after DVD realease) so I downloaded a US broadcast & watched it about 3 months before the UK DVD appeared, yes I do own the DVDs. I have downloaded odd episodes of Anime to see if any good - if liked buy the DVDs. (eg Ghost in the Shell Stand Alone Complex - got both series on DVD)

[TheBoy]

Most of it is TV not available internationally, so noone is actually losing, my first torrent was a programme I already owned 4 series on DVD and the final mini series was delayed by quite a few months iin the UK (in fact after DVD realease) so I downloaded a US broadcast & watched it about 3 months before the UK DVD appeared, yes I do own the DVDs. I have downloaded odd episodes of Anime to see if any good - if liked buy the DVDs. (eg Ghost in the Shell Stand Alone Complex - got both series on DVD)

So, back to my earlier question, why do you think you should be allowed this without paying?

[Martin_1962]

Most of it is TV not available internationally, so noone is actually losing, my first torrent was a programme I already owned 4 series on DVD and the final mini series was delayed by quite a few months iin the UK (in fact after DVD realease) so I downloaded a US broadcast & watched it about 3 months before the UK DVD appeared, yes I do own the DVDs. I have downloaded odd episodes of Anime to see if any good - if liked buy the DVDs. (eg Ghost in the Shell Stand Alone Complex - got both series on DVD)

So, back to my earlier question, why do you think you should be allowed this without paying?

Because we wouldn't have bought the DVDs otherwise, also with my fiorst example it would have meant waiting for months and I wanted to see it ASAP

[TheBoy]

Most of it is TV not available internationally, so noone is actually losing, my first torrent was a programme I already owned 4 series on DVD and the final mini series was delayed by quite a few months iin the UK (in fact after DVD realease) so I downloaded a US broadcast & watched it about 3 months before the UK DVD appeared, yes I do own the DVDs. I have downloaded odd episodes of Anime to see if any good - if liked buy the DVDs. (eg Ghost in the Shell Stand Alone Complex - got both series on DVD)

So, back to my earlier question, why do you think you should be allowed this without paying?

Because we wouldn't have bought the DVDs otherwise, also with my fiorst example it would have meant waiting for months and I wanted to see it ASAP

So, the fact that you can't get here tomorrow to demostrate it means I can illegally copy your company's database software stuff  :-/

[Martin_1962]

No in fact I will sort a demo for you on Monday