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[aaronjb]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2047939/US-foils-Iran-terror-plot-kill-Saudi-ambassador-Washington-D-C.html

Calling things an 'act of war' along with various other phrases used in the article above make it sound an awful lot like the US is eyeing up Iran as it's next military conquest..

Not that there was ever much doubt they'd end up there after Iraq & Afghanistan, I suppose.

Good way to take everyone's mind off things, and they do say war is good for the economy...

[albitz]

I personally dont believe that Obama has ambitions to extend the empire,as it were.Which is probably the only positive aspect of his presidency.
Iran is very dangerous though,and something will have to be done about its poisonous leadership at some point.Quite what is done and when is another matter though.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

I personally dont believe that Obama has ambitions to extend the empire,as it were.Which is probably the only positive aspect of his presidency.
Iran is very dangerous though,and something will have to be done about its poisonous leadership at some point.Quite what is done and when is another matter though.

There are a few rogue states in the world. Iran is one,as are North Korea and Pakistan. The most dangerous of all in my opinion is Israel.

[albitz]

We could argue that point all night long,but Iran in particular arms allsorts of rogues and terrorists.The only proviso being that they hate the west in general and the U.S in particular.Isreal is at least a democratic state,which is pretty rare in that part of the world.

[Nickbat]

I personally dont believe that Obama has ambitions to extend the empire,as it were.Which is probably the only positive aspect of his presidency.
Iran is very dangerous though,and something will have to be done about its poisonous leadership at some point.Quite what is done and when is another matter though.

There are a few rogue states in the world. Iran is one,as are North Korea and Pakistan. The most dangerous of all in my opinion is Israel.

How so? Israel would  (and correct me if I am wrong) happily live alongside any other states that recognised its existence and did not declare "wiping Israel off the map" as their aim. If you don't pull the tiger's tail, you won't get hurt.    Simples.

[albitz]

Agreed.Well put.

[Dishevelled Den]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2047939/US-foils-Iran-terror-plot-kill-Saudi-ambassador-Washington-D-C.html

Calling things an 'act of war' along with various other phrases used in the article above make it sound an awful lot like the US is eyeing up Iran as it's next military conquest..

Not that there was ever much doubt they'd end up there after Iraq & Afghanistan, I suppose.

Good way to take everyone's mind off things, and they do say war is good for the economy...

Not entirely unreasonable Aaron.

There's a bit more to this than is being reported in the MSM I would imagine but, in this climate, I wouldn't be at all surprised should some action be instigated by the US where Iran is concerned – from the probable up-scaling of sanctions by way of ‘U seless N’ resolution or some form of remote military action on the back of a response from Iranian interests on foot of US provocation.

The US has been looking for this for a while but over committed in Iraq and Afghanistan to the point where action against Iran would only have been feasible should an attack have occurred within US borders.

Like an assassination attempt on a state representative (foreign or domestic) in a major US city I suppose. Hah!

[Dishevelled Den]

I personally dont believe that Obama has ambitions to extend the empire,as it were.Which is probably the only positive aspect of his presidency.
Iran is very dangerous though,and something will have to be done about its poisonous leadership at some point.Quite what is done and when is another matter though.

There are a few rogue states in the world. Iran is one,as are North Korea and Pakistan. The most dangerous of all in my opinion is Israel.

Regretfully I can’t agree with the labelling of Israel as being a rouge state.

Without question she has perpetrated some very questionable acts but, on the back of such hostility towards her mere survival, I think the term could be better addressed towards her neighbours - many of whom wish to see the state of Israel and her peoples wiped off the face of the map and indeed from history.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

We could argue that point all night long,but Iran in particular arms allsorts of rogues and terrorists.The only proviso being that they hate the west in general and the U.S in particular.Isreal is at least a democratic state,which is pretty rare in that part of the world.

A military democracy Albs. Not really a pukka democracy in my view.

[Kevin Wood]

Calling things an 'act of war' along with various other phrases used in the article above make it sound an awful lot like the US is eyeing up Iran as it's next military conquest..

I do hope we have the sense to have nothing to do with it this time.. Although I think a move like that would have global consequences anyway.

[feeutfo]

I can't be the only one thinks Black ops have been under way in these Rogue states for some time. Libya, Syria, Tunisia, Egypt, etc etc....?

[Dishevelled Den]

I can't be the only one thinks Black ops have been under way in these Rogue states for some time. Libya, Syria, Tunisia, Egypt, etc etc....?

You are not alone in that respect Chris.

[aaronjb]

I can't be the only one thinks Black ops have been under way in these Rogue states for some time. Libya, Syria, Tunisia, Egypt, etc etc....?

Almost certainly.. but it becomes different when you're openly sabre rattling as they seem to be doing now, I think.. and, of course, if they go in to Iran, they'll engineer it so that the rest of the UN nations follow..

[Rods2]

To go public in this way to me suggests Iran is increasing their support for terrorism in an area of American interest and this is a warning shot across their bows and to prepare the public if further action (including military) is required to sort it out.

Iran has been providing major support with training, arms, explosives and mercenaries to the Taliban in Afghanistan since the west have had troops there. My thoughts are that there has been either an escalation of support here or they are getting involved in another middle-Eastern country where America has strategic interests, Egypt, Libya and Yemen spring to mind or they are near to completing their first nuclear device.

When Iran joins the nuclear club, it is very bad news for Israel as they are a small country with concentrated centres of population, it will not take many devices to wipe them out, while Iran is the reverse, a big country with a much more spread out population.

With the worlds economic problems and political instability in the middle-east these are scary times. In the 1930's we had depression, currency wars, where everybody was trying to outdo everybody else with devaluation to make their countries more competitive (stage we are at, at the moment with low interest rates, QE and high inflation in USA and UK), trade barriers and trade wars, through selective import duties, followed finally by the Second World War. With both Germany and Japan WWII was about perceived injustices by the allies and natural resources. Germany wanted more living space, strategic natural resources, particularly oil and Japan wanted to secure all the natural resources they could as their country has very few.

Iran, North Korea and China are the worries here as history shows that dictators generally start major wars and democracies fight and win them. China is going through a major military buildup at the moment, have a number of territorial disputes with their neighbours, especially when natural resources are involved and an aggressive foreign policy. But, although they have a very large population, it is also an aging one and old people don't make very good soldiers.

[feeutfo]

Can't allow that lunatic nuclear capability. If he has it already they're slacking. I know a few Iranians have left the country due to that regime, fearful and deeply concerned for the remaining population.

If it happens let's hope it's quick.