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Re: Colonel Gaddafi captured?
« Reply #30 on: 21 October 2011, 20:07:46 »

Not good indeed, but being realistic for a moment.. did anyone for one minute expect a different outcome if the locals got hold of him?

Indeed. Too much bitterness, and too many of their lives lost, for them to take a step back and make calm preparations for a trial at the Hague.
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« Reply #31 on: 21 October 2011, 20:08:16 »

He lived by the sword and died by the sword so to speak. It wasnt surprising how his life ended and having seen the results of some of the terrorism he funded I dont have sympathy for him either.It would have been a more edifying sight to have seen him captured and put on trial, rather than beaten and executed by a mob.I hope that this isnt a sign of what the future holds in Libya and the other Arab spring countries which have apparently recently converted to democracy.I was very uneasy though at the fact that  it was beamed into homes around the world, and close up photos of his dead battered face were the feature of every newspaper in the country this morning.We in the "civilised" west are supposed to be better than that. :(
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Re: Colonel Gaddafi captured?
« Reply #32 on: 21 October 2011, 20:12:43 »

He lived by the sword and died by the sword so to speak. It wasnt surprising how his life ended and having seen the results of some of the terrorism he funded I dont have sympathy for him either.It would have been a more edifying sight to have seen him captured and put on trial, rather than beaten and executed by a mob.I hope that this isnt a sign of what the future holds in Libya and the other Arab spring countries which have apparently recently converted to democracy.I was very uneasy though at the fact that  it was beamed into homes around the world, and close up photos of his dead battered face were the feature of every newspaper in the country this morning.We in the "civilised" west are supposed to be better than that. :(

I fear it might be. I have a feeling there's little respect for anything approaching democracy there, not that I'm an expert. If the population have sorted things out "by the sword" for generations, are they likely to stop now? :-\
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« Reply #33 on: 21 October 2011, 20:14:13 »

Indeed Albs - while I understand it was inevitable, I don't agree with it either (nor the media sensationalisation of it, as you say).. but yes, it worries me what will now become of Libya. A swift orderly change to democracy, or a swift dissolution to anarchy and continuing violence as the leaders of the 'rebel army' vie to become the next dictator?

My money is on the latter.
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« Reply #34 on: 21 October 2011, 20:17:58 »

under no circumstance and in no civilisation or religion , a 60 year old man wounded and covered with blood cant be slaughtered like that what ever he has done.. did you you hear how they shout and said ..
the words they spelled  >:(     those muppets are not even human and got no idea what future they have..
 
everyone have the right to have a trial at least..basic human rights.. even if he does not deserve..
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« Reply #35 on: 21 October 2011, 20:22:48 »

Like most countries in the region, there are several factions - pro western style democrats,Islamists,etc......just like there were in Iraq after the fall of Saddam.I hope we havent opened another big can of worms. :-\
Glad to see the back of him though. I just dearly wish that he and his sons had been given the opportunity to tell the ugly truth about who said what to whom in all the meetings they had with Blair and Mandelson.
Imo it will forever bring shame on this country that our Prime minister and members of his Govt. sucked up to him for his oil. >:( >:(
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« Reply #36 on: 21 October 2011, 20:23:23 »

Let's face it they are living in the middle ages and act like it, it is tribal and just look at all those guns. I rather fear the worst for the country just look at the indiscipled rabble we helped. I personally don't see how bombing a convoy of 4*4's speeding out of Sirte was protecting the public, I suspect that NATO had a good idea it was Gaddafi. If that is the case then they are responsible for the outcome, no great loss and keeps things at closure rather than the circus trials in Iraq. This is how these people behave you can't expect an immediate democracy to suddenly appear, lets face it we have one but aren't allowed a referendum on European membership who's the dictator now.
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« Reply #37 on: 21 October 2011, 20:25:07 »

under no circumstance and in no civilisation or religion , a 60 year old man wounded and covered with blood cant be slaughtered like that what ever he has done.. did you you hear how they shout and said ..
the words they spelled  >:(     those muppets are not even human and got no idea what future they have..
 
everyone have the right to have a trial at least..basic human rights.. even if he does not deserve..

Agreed Cem.Its what seperates us humans from the animals. :y
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« Reply #38 on: 21 October 2011, 20:26:20 »

dont forget Sarcosy , giving him his best wishes and friendship when Gaddafi visited France and also Berlusconi kissing his hands ;D   what has changed ever since..
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« Reply #39 on: 21 October 2011, 20:27:23 »

under no circumstance and in no civilisation or religion , a 60 year old man wounded and covered with blood cant be slaughtered like that what ever he has done.. did you you hear how they shout and said ..
the words they spelled  >:(     those muppets are not even human and got no idea what future they have..
 
everyone have the right to have a trial at least..basic human rights.. even if he does not deserve..

Agreed Cem.Its what seperates us humans from the animals. :y

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Re: Colonel Gaddafi captured?
« Reply #40 on: 21 October 2011, 20:41:32 »

Not good indeed, but being realistic for a moment.. did anyone for one minute expect a different outcome if the locals got hold of him?

Agreed, as horrific as it is to watch, he deserved all he got, he's responsible for thousands of deaths  :(
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« Reply #41 on: 21 October 2011, 20:46:34 »

Not good indeed, but being realistic for a moment.. did anyone for one minute expect a different outcome if the locals got hold of him?

Agreed, as horrific as it is to watch, he deserved all he got, he's responsible for thousands of deaths  :(

I'm not sure his death will stop other deaths for the future.. most of those figures are so primitive that they wont accept to give their guns after so called  "peace"
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« Reply #42 on: 21 October 2011, 21:05:26 »

Not good indeed, but being realistic for a moment.. did anyone for one minute expect a different outcome if the locals got hold of him?

Agreed, as horrific as it is to watch, he deserved all he got, he's responsible for thousands of deaths  :(

I'm not sure his death will stop other deaths for the future.. most of those figures are so primitive that they wont accept to give their guns after so called  "peace"

Yes, I certainly agree with you cem.  The whole social structure of the region is too tribally oriented for conventional politics to work with any degree of real meaning.

Three things enjoy better success however - not only there but right across the near/mid east - and they are of course religion, money (and the exploitation of it) and of course weapons furthermore, the political systems of many of those countries seem to be based wholly on this triumvirate of means.
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« Reply #43 on: 21 October 2011, 21:47:32 »

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Not good indeed, but being realistic for a moment.. did anyone for one minute expect a different outcome if the locals got hold of him?

Agreed, as horrific as it is to watch, he deserved all he got, he's responsible for thousands of deaths  :(

I'm not sure his death will stop other deaths for the future.. most of those figures are so primitive that they wont accept to give their guns after so called  "peace"

Yes, I certainly agree with you cem.  The whole social structure of the region is too tribally oriented for conventional politics to work with any degree of real meaning.

Three things enjoy better success however - not only there but right across the near/mid east - and they are of course religion, money (and the exploitation of it) and of course weapons furthermore, the political systems of many of those countries seem to be based wholly on this triumvirate of means.

I'm gald to hear/read your comments again Den :y
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Re: Colonel Gaddafi captured?
« Reply #44 on: 22 October 2011, 00:59:04 »

Not good indeed, but being realistic for a moment.. did anyone for one minute expect a different outcome if the locals got hold of him?

Agreed, as horrific as it is to watch, he deserved all he got, he's responsible for thousands of deaths  :(

I'm not sure his death will stop other deaths for the future.. most of those figures are so primitive that they wont accept to give their guns after so called  "peace"

You're right of course Cem, but if you're asking whether I have any sympathy towards Gaddafi and his plight, it's a 'no' from me.
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