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[azza_126]

can you get a solidflywheel to replace the duelmass one on the 3l v6?

[TheBoy]

I'm sure the pillocks such as the likes of Courtney 'Sport' (in the loosest sense) will do a lightened flywheel, which probably isn't dual mass.

What are you hoping to achieve (sorry if I've missed a thread)

[serek]

can you get a solidflywheel to replace the duelmass one on the 3l v6?

you can use fly wheel of vectra B V6 its direct swap but you need clutch from vectra too,

[cem_devecioglu]

can you get a solidflywheel to replace the duelmass one on the 3l v6?

you can use fly wheel of vectra B V6 its direct swap but you need clutch from vectra too,

yep, I preferred that route and no probs.. and even the clutch kit is 1/3 price of the other here..

[serek]

can you get a solidflywheel to replace the duelmass one on the 3l v6?

you can use fly wheel of vectra B V6 its direct swap but you need clutch from vectra too,

yep, I preferred that route and no probs.. and even the clutch kit is 1/3 price of the other here..

I have vectra V6 fly wheel of ebay for 25£ posted and bloke send free clutch with it where was like new

[azza_126]

cheers for the help il get myself a vectra flywheel then i just hate duel mass and as a mechanic and knowing how oftern they go wrong when i change the clutch i wanted a soild flywheel to replace the duel mass

[Marks DTM Calib]

Lol, dual mass works well jus not on modern diesels.

No issues with them on the petrol Omegas and have seen them with 300K+ miles on

[justjohn]

No issues with them on the petrol Omegas and have seen them with 300K+ miles on

Just curious, if you had a clutch go at a lower milage, would you replace the DMF as well or take a chance after inspecting it?

Or does it depend on the make of car / engine type?

[serek]

No issues with them on the petrol Omegas and have seen them with 300K+ miles on

Just curious, if you had a clutch go at a lower milage, would you replace the DMF as well or take a chance after inspecting it?

Or does it depend on the make of car / engine type?

you can check condition of DMF and if its ok can replace just clutch.

[serek]

cheers for the help il get myself a vectra flywheel then i just hate duel mass and as a mechanic and knowing how oftern they go wrong when i change the clutch i wanted a soild flywheel to replace the duel mass

omega DMF are VERY good not like ones on modern cars, never saw omega with DMF problem so far 

[azza_126]

the only advantage to having the solid one i thought maybe it would be lighter? and iv had lots of problems with mordern ones just dont wanna take the risk but cheers for the advise lads

[serek]

the only advantage to having the solid one i thought maybe it would be lighter? and iv had lots of problems with mordern ones just dont wanna take the risk but cheers for the advise lads

standard fly wheel of vectra its about 15kgs where same as omega DMF

[Andy B]

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omega DMF are VERY good not like ones on modern cars, never saw omega with DMF problem so far 

Local dealer had various manual white Omegas in the workshop after Plod had been playing ....... 

[lozzzzzz]

I have a courtney 5.6kg jobby on the scimitar build, I've no idea how it feels yet as it doesn't have a prop shaft and many other things, but I can tell you the revs pick up very quickly indeed. 

There is a massive advantage in haveing a light flywheel, you can run through some simple calc (simple if you make some resonable assumptions). 

Assume the majority of the mass of the flywheel to be at 2/3 of the radius to make life easy, so imagine the flywheel to be spinning a large mass at 95mm from its centre. 

We'll work with 1kg to start with.

Multiply this 1kg on the flywheel through the first gear ratio of 3.81, and the final drive ratio of 3.9 (if thats the one you've got) and its like having an extra 14.6 kg strapped to you're wheel at 95mm from the centre for every 1kg on the flywheel. 

You can now equate this to an extra mass in the car by multiplying this mass by the ratio of "mass radius on the flywheel / radius of the wheel". 

So in first gear its like 4.4kg extra weight in the car for every extra kg of mass in the flywheel. 

And if you shave 10kg off with a courtney flywheel its like loosing 43kg off the weight of the car in first gear. 

This lowers to a 24kg reduction in car weight in 2nd gear, and 15kg in thrid. 



I've not done this calculation before, and I seem to have almost convinced myself while writing this that is might not have been worth the extra money

I was a little conservative with the assumptions, the majority of the mass is very near the outer edge making it more like 55kg of the weight of the car in 1st. 

hmm.....    I kinda hope I've got something wrong, I was under the impression it made a bigger difference

Bummer!

[albitz]

Ive always believed that a lightened flywheel only makes a noticeable difference while the car is in neutral.Once its connected to the transmission,and therefore the weight of the rest of the car,I cant see what difference it can make.
Handy for blipping the throttle on double declutch downchanges I suppose.