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What would Jesus say? (St Pauls).
« on: 30 October 2011, 18:23:28 »
I know that there are three taboo subjects for forums.(Religion, politics and sex) but I can't help having to post on the protestors outside St Pauls cathedral.

What would Jesus have said? I think he would have joined the protestors.

Do I think the church has handled the situation well? An emphatic no. They have behaved no better than the capitalists banking pigs that the protestors are railing against.

Do I think the protestors are making a valid protest? Yes. For everyone of them there (including any rent a mob individuals or misguided souls) there are many, many more sitting at home in the warm and dry feeling the same thing.

Should people be allowed to protest? Yes It is a fundamental part of our democracy. Remember the "grubby urchin women" at Greenham Common villified by the British public and the Press. Well they succeeded in their protest. Without that and the swell of public opinion, I have no doubt whatsoever that we would now have been a nuclear carrier for the Yanks.

It isn't a perfect world but with a bit of give and take St Pauls could and should have stayed open. They managed it during the war.

What do you think?
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Re: What would Jesus say? (St Pauls).
« Reply #1 on: 30 October 2011, 18:34:01 »
They are the same faces who turn up at every anti capitalist/anti establishment event, all middle class rebels who live off daddies salary from his well paid capitalist job.They will grow up and get jobs as bankers/accountants/solicitors etc.
Most of the tents are empty at night time,as they have all gone home to their warm comfy beds under the roof of Mummy and Daddies house - mortaged by a bank,and paid for from Daddies salary.
Having listened to their "protests" on the news etc. I quickly came to the conclusion that they aint got the first idea what they are talking about.
People should have the right to protest in a free society as long as they dont interfere with other people going about their daily lives and businesses - this lot are interfering with other peoples lives etc. so I dont have much time for them.
If they stay there long enough to get in the way of remembrance day services that will be the time to turn the fire hoses on them.
If they are too dim to realise that the nation wishes to spend that day remembring those who fought and died to give them the right to protest,then they dont deserve to be listened to imo.
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Re: What would Jesus say? (St Pauls).
« Reply #2 on: 30 October 2011, 18:37:07 »
Quote from: Albs on 30 October 2011, 18:34:01
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If they are too dim to realise that the nation wishes to spend that day remembring those who fought and died to give them the right to protest,then they dont deserve to be listened to imo.

Very well said!  :y
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« Reply #3 on: 30 October 2011, 18:42:01 »
What would Jesus have said/done ?
Well he threw the money men out of the temple,so I think his beef would be with the men of the cloth who run St. Pauls as a business rather than a place of worship for the most part.
Dont forget, the original banking crisis started because banks lent too much money to people who couldnt afford to pay it back,so its hardly surprising that they are very cautious about lending money now.They are also required to keep a lot more money "in stock" now by governments, so they dont have as much money to lend as they used to.
Share prices which were £10 plus around five years ago and dropped to around 5p within a year have only recovered to 50p at best, so they arent in the same position as they once were,which is probably why it was reported last week that bonuses have dropped this year by over 40%.
The industry is still very weak and trying to recover from the huge job losses etc it suffered about 3 years ago.
Two sides to evey coin Varche. ;)
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« Reply #4 on: 30 October 2011, 18:43:30 »
Do we really think there is a socialist utopia which we are being prevented from reaching by the "capitalist pigs" ? ::)
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Re: What would Jesus say? (St Pauls).
« Reply #5 on: 30 October 2011, 18:44:19 »
Quote from: Albs on 30 October 2011, 18:42:01
What would Jesus have said/done ?
Well he threw the money men out of the temple,so I think his beef would be with the men of the cloth who run St. Pauls as a business rather than a place of worship for the most part. ...

A member of the audience on Question Time last week said the same ............... apparently its' £14.50 entrance fee! :o :o
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« Reply #6 on: 30 October 2011, 18:53:45 »
Jesus would have said...' Go Forth and Multiply, and get a job' ;D ;D
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Re: What would Jesus say? (St Pauls).
« Reply #7 on: 30 October 2011, 18:54:21 »
Quote from: Andy B on 30 October 2011, 18:44:19
Quote from: Albs on 30 October 2011, 18:42:01
What would Jesus have said/done ?
Well he threw the money men out of the temple,so I think his beef would be with the men of the cloth who run St. Pauls as a business rather than a place of worship for the most part. ...

A member of the audience on Question Time last week said the same ............... apparently its' £14.50 entrance fee! :o :o
Pretty sure when I walked past it a few weeks ago, just as these unclean were just setting up their protest, access was 'free' (as I didn't pay ::)) to the main part, but a 'donation' was encouraged.  I walked out in disgust when a bit of nosh (my reason for entering) was gonna cost me £21.75 :o

It is in the toff area of London (so only other nosh was those wanky, overpriced sandwich bars), so I headed back towards Baker Street, and got my face around The Colonel's secret recipe of 11 herbs and spices, with change from a fiver iirc....
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Re: What would Jesus say? (St Pauls).
« Reply #8 on: 30 October 2011, 18:59:58 »
The right to demonstrate is a fundamental right in the UK. This does not give anybody the right to stop individuals or businesses effectively going about their lawful activities.

Unfortunately, as we are too tolerant of idiots, we have allowed a culture of professional protester to become trendy, starting with that idiot Swampy back in the 90s
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Re: What would Jesus say? (St Pauls).
« Reply #9 on: 30 October 2011, 19:06:52 »
Whatever happened to Swampy ?

Answer ? When his son was born he stated on the birth certificate that his job/profession was - market researcher. ::)
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Re: What would Jesus say? (St Pauls).
« Reply #10 on: 30 October 2011, 19:16:52 »
If they dont like it, get on the ferry, vote with thier feet and F-off!

Nobody is making them stay here in this terrible corrupt capitalist horror of a place.
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Re: What would Jesus say? (St Pauls).
« Reply #11 on: 30 October 2011, 19:17:40 »
Setting aside the encampment issues:

I am horrified to learn that the iconic locus of 'our' national-faith (effectively) charges admission fees to visitors/pilgrims. :o

Sadly......it would appear that, somewhere along the way, 'someone' appears to have taken the christian out of Christianity. :'(
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« Reply #12 on: 30 October 2011, 19:20:02 »
I think it's ridiculous that such a small number of protestors calling for a change to our accepted way of life should be given so much broadcast time. Anyone would think the BBC is in agreement with their demands.  ;)
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« Reply #13 on: 30 October 2011, 19:20:47 »
Quote from: Debs. on 30 October 2011, 19:17:40
Setting aside the encampment issues:

I am horrified to learn that the iconic locus of 'our' national-faith (effectively) charges admission fees to visitors/pilgrims. :o

Sadly......it would appear that, somewhere along the way, 'someone' appears to have taken the christian out of Christianity. :'(

Not wrong there, Debs. Sadly.  :(
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Re: What would Jesus say? (St Pauls).
« Reply #14 on: 30 October 2011, 19:41:06 »
from jesus to protesters

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