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Re: Neighbours unsecure Wireless, Shall I tell them?
« Reply #15 on: 11 March 2008, 16:00:24 »

Lol......WEP is a doddle to crack anyway....
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Re: Neighbours unsecure Wireless, Shall I tell them?
« Reply #16 on: 11 March 2008, 16:01:24 »

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Lol......WEP is a doddle to crack anyway....

It is... specially with my super sniffer ::) ...

But it's a deterrent for most...  and it's safer to also filter by MAC address in addition..
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Re: Neighbours unsecure Wireless, Shall I tell them?
« Reply #17 on: 11 March 2008, 17:55:55 »

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Lol......WEP is a doddle to crack anyway....

It is... specially with my super sniffer ::) ...

But it's a deterrent for most...  and it's safer to also filter by MAC address in addition..
MAC even easier to spoof.

Won't settle for less than WPA1 now....   ....you lot would be peeved if the forum got hit....
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Re: Neighbours unsecure Wireless, Shall I tell them?
« Reply #18 on: 11 March 2008, 18:56:57 »

Not just me that uses laptop in the bath then!  :y
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Re: Neighbours unsecure Wireless, Shall I tell them?
« Reply #19 on: 11 March 2008, 20:40:58 »

Funnily enough.......I have tonight just discovered a network v. close to me totaly unsurcured too........and the same.....bang in the routers ip address in IE and gues the admin password and hey presto.....im connected to the router  ;D
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« Reply #20 on: 11 March 2008, 20:47:59 »

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Funnily enough.......I have tonight just discovered a network v. close to me totaly unsurcured too........and the same.....bang in the routers ip address in IE and gues the admin password and hey presto.....im connected to the router  ;D

Tho they have a password setup on the pc thats turned on at the mo....2 pc's listed in the dhcp table  ::) ;D
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Re: Neighbours unsecure Wireless, Shall I tell them?
« Reply #21 on: 11 March 2008, 21:36:24 »

You an get the router IP address by looking at the network properties.....

As for cracking WEP, you simply write a programme which sniffs the packets and identifies and stores the insecure ones. Then bombard the router with the insecure captured packets and you get more insecure ones in return until you have a few tens of thousands of insecure packets before bunging them through a cracker.

Out comes the password!
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« Reply #22 on: 11 March 2008, 21:39:12 »

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You an get the router IP address by looking at the network properties.....

As for cracking WEP, you simply write a programme which sniffs the packets and identifies and stores the insecure ones. Then bombard the router with the insecure captured packets and you get more insecure ones in return until you have a few tens of thousands of insecure packets before bunging them through a cracker.

Out comes the password!
The headers on WEP packets are unencrypted.  Makes an easy attack vector.  Plenty of utils out there to crack within 10mins...
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Re: Neighbours unsecure Wireless, Shall I tell them?
« Reply #23 on: 11 March 2008, 21:43:41 »

Now you got me worried.

How do I know if I am secure, I think I am, i am sure I had to put a number in to get it going. I am on a bt home hub. There is one other neighbour near me and I tried once signing on his and it would not allow.
Please only in plain easy english thanks.
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Re: Neighbours unsecure Wireless, Shall I tell them?
« Reply #24 on: 11 March 2008, 21:44:30 »

Done the odd Netstumbling (OK Wardriving) on my routes to and from work... Well it's useful to know where there is a bit of free connectivity when you need to send an email etc.... better than paying for 3G!

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« Reply #25 on: 11 March 2008, 22:01:52 »

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Now you got me worried.

How do I know if I am secure, I think I am, i am sure I had to put a number in to get it going. I am on a bt home hub. There is one other neighbour near me and I tried once signing on his and it would not allow.
Please only in plain easy english thanks.
 :D :D :D
BT Homehub was released inherently insecure (the OEM, Thomson, were told to remove WPA in the BT specific version (its a Speedtouch 7)), though later updates have given options for securing, but are quite hidden.
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Re: Neighbours unsecure Wireless, Shall I tell them?
« Reply #26 on: 11 March 2008, 22:06:22 »

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Now you got me worried.

How do I know if I am secure, I think I am, i am sure I had to put a number in to get it going. I am on a bt home hub. There is one other neighbour near me and I tried once signing on his and it would not allow.
Please only in plain easy english thanks.
 :D :D :D
BT Homehub was released inherently insecure (the OEM, Thomson, were told to remove WPA in the BT specific version (its a Speedtouch 7)), though later updates have given options for securing, but are quite hidden.

Thanks TB, clear as mudd now.  :-[ :-[ :-? :-?How can I tell, my laptop loads automaticaly when I switch it on. :D
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« Reply #27 on: 11 March 2008, 22:07:40 »

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Now you got me worried.

How do I know if I am secure, I think I am, i am sure I had to put a number in to get it going. I am on a bt home hub. There is one other neighbour near me and I tried once signing on his and it would not allow.
Please only in plain easy english thanks.
 :D :D :D
BT Homehub was released inherently insecure (the OEM, Thomson, were told to remove WPA in the BT specific version (its a Speedtouch 7)), though later updates have given options for securing, but are quite hidden.

Thanks TB, clear as mudd now.  :-[ :-[ :-? :-?How can I tell, my laptop loads automaticaly when I switch it on. :D
unless you have specifically set it, it will be wep
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Re: Neighbours unsecure Wireless, Shall I tell them?
« Reply #28 on: 11 March 2008, 22:09:08 »

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Now you got me worried.

How do I know if I am secure, I think I am, i am sure I had to put a number in to get it going. I am on a bt home hub. There is one other neighbour near me and I tried once signing on his and it would not allow.
Please only in plain easy english thanks.
 :D :D :D
BT Homehub was released inherently insecure (the OEM, Thomson, were told to remove WPA in the BT specific version (its a Speedtouch 7)), though later updates have given options for securing, but are quite hidden.

Thanks TB, clear as mudd now.  :-[ :-[ :-? :-?How can I tell, my laptop loads automaticaly when I switch it on. :D
unless you have specifically set it, it will be wep

I had to put a long number in when I first set it up, I assumed this was for security, just this thread made me wonder. :)
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« Reply #29 on: 11 March 2008, 22:11:05 »

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Now you got me worried.

How do I know if I am secure, I think I am, i am sure I had to put a number in to get it going. I am on a bt home hub. There is one other neighbour near me and I tried once signing on his and it would not allow.
Please only in plain easy english thanks.
 :D :D :D
BT Homehub was released inherently insecure (the OEM, Thomson, were told to remove WPA in the BT specific version (its a Speedtouch 7)), though later updates have given options for securing, but are quite hidden.

Thanks TB, clear as mudd now.  :-[ :-[ :-? :-?How can I tell, my laptop loads automaticaly when I switch it on. :D
unless you have specifically set it, it will be wep

I had to put a long number in when I first set it up, I assumed this was for security, just this thread made me wonder. :)
probably wep key.

Seeing as I refuse to have such a piece of junk in the house, I'll leave to someone else to describe step by step how you set this up
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