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[Figureman52]

Can anyone recommend a Part P registered electrician who works in the Nottingham area?

I need a cooker point putting in asap for my Wife's parents.

I could do the work myself but it would still need to be certified.

Thanks.

[mantahatch]

Can anyone recommend a Part P registered electrician who works in the Nottingham area?

I need a cooker point putting in asap for my Wife's parents.

I could do the work myself but it would still need to be certified.

Thanks.

I still do all my own electrical work. No regulations will stop that for me. I can work all day on 3 phase equipment at work, but I am not allowed to do work in my own home. Stuff them is my opinion.

Sorry for the rant. 

[sticka_v8_init]

Can anyone recommend a Part P registered electrician who works in the Nottingham area?

I need a cooker point putting in asap for my Wife's parents.

I could do the work myself but it would still need to be certified.

Thanks.

I still do all my own electrical work. No regulations will stop that for me. I can work all day on 3 phase equipment at work, but I am not allowed to do work in my own home. Stuff them is my opinion.

Sorry for the rant. 

Same here fella, won't stop me in my house either.

[tigers_gonads]

Do it yourself 

If you need to know anything, stick it on here or pm me   

[Osprey]

... and the Part P bod that comes to certify your work is a spotty yoof, duller than a dud bulb, whose only industry experience is the training course he went on last year. 



A miracle could happen in that boy's hip pocket and all he'd do is scratch his arse

[Kevin Wood]

Bear in mind that such work would be notifiable for building regulations control so you run the risk of it being picked up should the house subsequently be sold. Depends when and if there are plans to sell the house and how obvious it is that it's a new installation at the point in time, IMHO. If you are just replacing like for like you'd probably get away with it, IMHO.

I know someone who recently trained as a electrician, and he was employed doing and signing off part-P work unsupervised from the day he walked through the door, scratching his @rse.

[aaronjb]

Technically, I believe, you can't just get someone in to certify your own work if you haven't notified building control, as they'd be signing off that they did the work and doing the notification?

That was how I understood it, anyway. Of course you can notify the BC and then pay to have it inspected & tested, but when I checked that was going to cost almost as much as just having a spark do the work!

[aaronjb]

On the general subject of Part P I'm torn.. I can see *why* the rules were brought in; I just have to look at the standard of work the previous owners of my last flat did, and the previous owners of my parents house (luckily my current house is unmolested in entirety from 1970 when it was built).. but really for anyone with 2/3rds of a brain, wiring is fairly straightforward.

The only tricky bit is doing the diversity calcs and cable rating stuff correctly - even then, two of the three sparks who came to quote on the garage pretty much just stuck their finger in the air and then picked cables smaller than I was comfortable with them using (e.g. one wanted to use <10mm2 SWA when I'd have gone for 16mm, we split the difference on 10mm2 SWA in the end..)

[Kevin Wood]

Agreed.

The problem is, it's the idiots with 1/3rd of a brain that are the most inclined to "have a go".. And the fact that holes large enough to drive a bus through got negotiated in the regs to protect certain bodies of "incompetent persons" from having to comply - IMHO.

And yes, I'm sure "rule of thumb" takes over as soon as the certificate hits the doormat, in most cases. Nothing especially wrong with that, IMHO, as long as the installation ends up safe. If every installation was designed from first principles nothing would ever get done.

[aaronjb]

And yes, I'm sure "rule of thumb" takes over as soon as the certificate hits the doormat, in most cases. Nothing especially wrong with that, IMHO, as long as the installation ends up safe. If every installation was designed from first principles nothing would ever get done.

Very true - and I (generally ) respect the opinion of people who've been doing it a while; one of the electricians had been one for longer than I've been alive.. though I still disagree that 6mm SWA, buried in a 32mm conduit, would have enough headroom to run a 20A radial, 6A lighting, 20A commando socket (on it's own radial) and a 16A feed for a water heater.. even taking diversity into account (which clearly we are, as the main breaker on the feed is only 48A, if memory serves)

Nothing to do with me already having a reel of 10mm SWA, and it being the biggest size I could physically stuff down the conduit..

[Figureman52]

There are no plans to sell the house during her parent's lifetime and afaik Building Control are not in the habit of raiding properties to check the wiring

I should think therefore, I could do the job myself and if at sometime in the future the work was discovered, claim no knowledge of who did it and get it checked and certified then.

[fiend61]

part p was only brought in due an mp's daughter getting electrocuted via a sink that wasnt earthed     who done it  not an electrician but an unquailfied kitchen fitter, which then meant that all regs changed and fully quailified sparks like myself had to dig in their pockets to get yet another piece of paper to say that they were competent  

rant over 

[fiend61]

oh and aaronjb depending on length of cable run and the loading you have in the garage i would say yes the 6mm xple swa would do with a type b or type c 32amp breaker, 2  core 6mm swa is capable of carrying 60amp   

[aaronjb]

oh and aaronjb depending on length of cable run and the loading you have in the garage i would say yes the 6mm xple swa would do with a type b or type c 32amp breaker, 2  core 6mm swa is capable of carrying 60amp   

It's about a 10m run (well, we got 10m of cable and had ~0.75m left after lopping the end off.. when I say 'we' I mean the electrician naturally, as he did that bit while I was at work ).. at least 10mm has decent headroom for the future

[Ken T]

I thought you were allowed to replace a cable or a fixing if damaged without needing it to be notified. So provided there was a socket there before, and you felt it and the cable were damaged, then you could replace them.

Ken