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Re: Oil level Omega B 2.5
« Reply #15 on: 20 November 2011, 23:18:53 »

Thanks a lot for all your help so far, I'm very grateful for all the information and that you share your knowledge with me :)

Considering the correct item number on the dipstick, the results from your measurements (thanks for looking under the bonnet) and the fact that the dipstick tube is not secured (from what I remember, there is not bracket at all- is it supposed to be welded to the tube?), there is definitively something fishy with the dipstick guide tube.

I will take a deeper look at this in the coming week. I'll keep you updated  :y

I don't think the previous poster has measured the guide tube ... I think he has measured the dipstick itself ...

We now need the guide tube measured from the block to the top.. by some kind 2.5 owner ...
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Re: Oil level Omega B 2.5
« Reply #16 on: 21 November 2011, 08:53:15 »

We now need the guide tube measured from the block to the top.. by some kind 2.5 owner ...
That ain't gonna be easy with the engine in the car ;D
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Re: Oil level Omega B 2.5
« Reply #17 on: 21 November 2011, 09:58:39 »

Thanks a lot for all your help so far, I'm very grateful for all the information and that you share your knowledge with me :)

Considering the correct item number on the dipstick, the results from your measurements (thanks for looking under the bonnet) and the fact that the dipstick tube is not secured (from what I remember, there is not bracket at all- is it supposed to be welded to the tube?), there is definitively something fishy with the dipstick guide tube.

I will take a deeper look at this in the coming week. I'll keep you updated  :y

Yes, it locates with the engine lifting eye and coolant transfer pipe that goes to the thermostat and its held in place by what's know as the B*stard bolt ::)
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Re: Oil level Omega B 2.5
« Reply #18 on: 21 November 2011, 10:32:29 »

I took a quick look under the bonnet this morning and with good help from a 500W halogen lamp, I was actually able to see what was hiding down there  :y
There is a bracket attached to the dipstick guide tube. However, it is not fastened to anything else, that's why it can be freely rotated.
If you look at the bracket, there is some kind of "bar/metal plate/bracket" behind it (on the engine) with a hole that might be where the dip stick bracket should be secured with a bolt/screw.
The hole in the dipstick bracket and the hole in the part behind it are not aligned. The dipstick bracket hole is higher placed than the hole behind. It's difficult to see exactly how much but it's probably about 10-15 mm which equals the false indication.
This is most likely what's causing the problem.

See attached photos for details:
http://ladda-upp.se/bilder/zawowglpndtr/
http://ladda-upp.se/bilder/osmrybwscrvrbf/
http://ladda-upp.se/bilder/zibpapguuojpvw/
http://ladda-upp.se/bilder/ncuewsxmzgsdy/

B*stard bolt ??  ???  Pls develop this a little more to a rookie like me.
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Re: Oil level Omega B 2.5
« Reply #19 on: 21 November 2011, 12:41:34 »

The bolt is commonly called the Bastard bolt because of its location which makes it difficult to remove/replace which is why I think your's hasn't been replaced ;)
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Re: Oil level Omega B 2.5
« Reply #20 on: 21 November 2011, 13:58:11 »





if i have done these right it might give you an idea of how high/low the dipstick should be  :y
« Last Edit: 21 November 2011, 14:03:21 by fiend61 »
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Re: Oil level Omega B 2.5
« Reply #21 on: 21 November 2011, 16:13:48 »

Thanks for posting the photos, it's always easier when you have something to compare with.

I decided to use some "gentle force" in order to find out if the dipstick tube really was seated properly and I found out that it wasn't! With a little help from a hammer and a piece of wood as protection, I managed to get the tube down and now the oil level on the dipstick is far beyond max.!  ;D

The next step is to fix the tube so it wont pop up when the dipstick is pulled out of the tube. Is this where the b*astard bolt comes in or have I completely misunderstood that part?  ???
Please advise. If anyone knows the spare part item number for the bolt, this would be very helpful.

Below two links showing how it looks like now. The secound picture shows in detail how the dipstick bracket now is aligned with the hole behind. Is this where the b*astard bolt should be used??  ???

http://ladda-upp.se/bilder/lvfqzgzkbynbsi/
http://ladda-upp.se/bilder/rdjkxwfhlkqfck/
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Re: Oil level Omega B 2.5
« Reply #22 on: 21 November 2011, 17:25:53 »

Check if you already have a Bastard Bolt - it should also hold the coolant transfer pipe and a lifting eye in place.

Its a right sod to do.


Look at the thermostat guide I wrote, that will cover the B-Bolt.
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Re: Oil level Omega B 2.5
« Reply #23 on: 24 November 2011, 14:12:58 »

First step would be to find the location of the B-Bolt, or at least the hole where it is supposed to be fitted.
This was easier said than done... ???

Exactly where is the hole that this annoying little bolt is supposed to be screwed into??
I checked the thermostat guide, but the engine in the guide does not look the same as my 2.5L  :-\

I cannot see any lifting eye, guess it's gone or maybe I'm looking at the wrong place??
Is this part supposed to be fitted between the dipstick tube bracket and the "hole in the engine" (which I can't locate...)?
Coolant transfer pipe...ehhh, where?  :-[

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Re: Oil level Omega B 2.5
« Reply #24 on: 24 November 2011, 15:23:00 »

This may be of some help. :y

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Re: Oil level Omega B 2.5
« Reply #25 on: 24 November 2011, 15:32:46 »

Looks like your arrows are pointing at the correct things,although it appears that the dipstick bracket is sandwiched between the bracket on the pipe and the lifting bracket,rather than in front of the pipe bracket. :y
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Re: Oil level Omega B 2.5
« Reply #26 on: 24 November 2011, 19:19:45 »

Thanks, that pic finally made me understand how the parts should be mounted   :D

I also realized that there actually was a B-Bolt fitted (holding the coolant transfer pipe), I just couldnīt see it!
As said before, the lifting bracket is missing but I'll just have to fit one when I plan to take the motor out of the car  ;)
It took a while to unscrew the B-Bolt, it is really tight down there, but as soon the bolt was out, it was no problem to refit it, this time keeping the dipstick tube in place as well.

I really appreciate all the good will and efforts you have showed to help me, thanks!  :y

(I'll soon post a new thread regarding the coolant leak from my car  ;))

The little bugger!


Finished!
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Re: Oil level Omega B 2.5
« Reply #27 on: 24 November 2011, 19:23:15 »

Glad you got it sorted. :y
I think you did well to notice the problem in the first place.Many people would just have put enough oil in to bring it to the mark on the dipstick without investigating further. :y
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Re: Oil level Omega B 2.5
« Reply #28 on: 24 November 2011, 19:26:17 »

well done  :y  especially with the b@st@ard bolt a right pita and you didnt even round it off  :y
i know who to call when i want my stat doing ;) ;)
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Re: Oil level Omega B 2.5
« Reply #29 on: 24 November 2011, 19:27:47 »

Good news. We await the next oil change to see how much goes in :)

Thats not the original B-Bolt, which left the engine factory with a torx bolt :) - not that it matters :y
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