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Re: intercoolers
« Reply #15 on: 26 November 2011, 21:34:32 »



intercooler is here with its own fan

off to find a Brabus's  :y

and I thought the V6 engine bay was tight  :o :o
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Re: intercoolers
« Reply #16 on: 26 November 2011, 21:38:33 »

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and I thought the V6 engine bay was tight  :o :o

Have you seen what you need to do to change all 6 plugs?  ??? ??? ???   (it's only 3 cylinder)

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Re: intercoolers
« Reply #17 on: 26 November 2011, 21:38:54 »

Same as in a normal radiator... running through the vanes?

Where's the charge air then?  :-\

Picture a 'normal' radiator encased in an air/watertight shroud.

Air passes through internals wher water would normally be.

Water passes through fins etc where air would normally be.

Casing keeps the water in place rather than being lost as air would normally be on a 'normal' car.

Completely understand now!  :y :y :y :y
Ta!

I knew I'd get a proper answer here!

Only took 15 replies!   ;D ;D ;D :y :y
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Re: intercoolers
« Reply #18 on: 26 November 2011, 21:39:46 »

Same as in a normal radiator... running through the vanes?

Where's the charge air then?  :-\

Picture a 'normal' radiator encased in an air/watertight shroud.

Air passes through internals wher water would normally be.

Water passes through fins etc where air would normally be.

Casing keeps the water in place rather than being lost as air would normally be on a 'normal' car.

Completely understand now!  :y :y :y :y
Ta!

I knew I'd get a proper answer here!

Only took 15 replies!   ;D ;D ;D :y :y

I knew the air - air ........... just couldn't see where the water would be  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Re: intercoolers
« Reply #19 on: 26 November 2011, 21:40:25 »

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and I thought the V6 engine bay was tight  :o :o

Have you seen what you need to do to change all 6 plugs?  ??? ??? ???   (it's only 3 cylinder)



Changing a turbo on a Disco4 means splitting body from chassis to get access....   ::)
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Re: intercoolers
« Reply #20 on: 26 November 2011, 21:40:30 »

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and I thought the V6 engine bay was tight  :o :o

Have you seen what you need to do to change all 6 plugs?  ??? ??? ???   (it's only 3 cylinder)



 :o :o :o :o :o :o :o

and I complain about a loom over one bank  ;D
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Re: intercoolers
« Reply #21 on: 26 November 2011, 21:44:22 »

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and I thought the V6 engine bay was tight  :o :o

Have you seen what you need to do to change all 6 plugs?  ??? ??? ???   (it's only 3 cylinder)



 :o :o :o :o :o :o :o

and I complain about a loom over one bank  ;D

It's not as bad to do as it looks  ;)
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Re: intercoolers
« Reply #22 on: 26 November 2011, 21:45:13 »

Think I would rather have the M5 in the background  :)
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Re: intercoolers
« Reply #23 on: 26 November 2011, 21:46:34 »

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Changing a turbo on a Disco4 means splitting body from chassis to get access....   ::)

Sounds like a job for a and weld it back in again afterwards  ;D ;D ;D
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« Reply #24 on: 26 November 2011, 21:51:00 »

In reality, raising a Disco4 body from the chassis is only a dozen or two bolts and a number of wiring connectors . 

Reassembly is the reverse of removal, according to the haynes book of best guesses.   ;D

Next time ones being done in the workshop, must take a piccy.....   :y
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« Reply #25 on: 26 November 2011, 22:00:42 »

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 is only a dozen or two bolts and  .....

And how long does it take to remove a bolt?  ::) ::) ::)

It could be real fun a few years later after a X thousand miles of salt covered roads later.  ;) ;)
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Re: intercoolers
« Reply #26 on: 26 November 2011, 22:14:52 »

Thanks for asking that question Andy as, I think I also learned something, I have never owned a car with a 'Turbo' or Intercooler on it, until now, must lift the bonnet one day and take a look...... :y :y :y
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« Reply #27 on: 26 November 2011, 22:18:30 »

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 is only a dozen or two bolts and  .....

And how long does it take to remove a bolt?  ::) ::) ::)

It could be real fun a few years later after a X thousand miles of salt covered roads later;) ;)

No argument from me on that point!    ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Re: intercoolers
« Reply #28 on: 26 November 2011, 22:20:49 »

Thanks for asking that question Andy as, I think I also learned something, I have never owned a car with a 'Turbo' or Intercooler on it, must lift the bonnet one day and take a look...... :y :y :y

I've had a TD Astra for a few years, SWMBO got the Smart a couple of years ago but even though I kinda knew the different bits, I'd never really thought of them all as a whole. My Dad was asking about turbos, intercoolers etc & I realised I didn't actually know properly myself especially when I thought of the water bit on the Brabus Roadsters. It all makes sense now.  :y :y :y
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Re: intercoolers
« Reply #29 on: 26 November 2011, 22:24:31 »

The advantages with a charge cooler are that water has a much higher heat capacity than air as a cooling medium so a cooler cooled by water can be much smaller to shift a given amount of heat from the charge. In addition, you can locate it on the engine rather than where you have cooling airflow. It'll be more free-flowing and tie up a smaller volume of air in the cooler than an intercooler, hence reducing turbo lag.
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