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Today is the big strike day
« on: 30 November 2011, 06:18:03 »

 ;D
Are these civil servant and public sector people, supposedly those who are suppopsed to be employed on our behalf and are paid from our taxes really aware of what they are doing or are they just weak willed mindless sheep who are blindly following their leaders?
 ::) I have just had a great idea to get them back to work.....why not let them think they have won, let the government back down and allow the pensions of the strikers to remain exactly as it is now?
I suggest that because in many years time when the public sector workers reach a pesionable age they will then be able to draw the pension that they have contributed to but which by then will intrinsically be well below that of the rest of the private sector workers who are working longer and contributing more to their pensions, albeit grudgingly.All I can see are their noses dug deep into the public funded trough once again. Sheer greed is the only description for their actions which will cause the rest of us a load of grief and disruption yet again.
Who continues to draw their full salaries while the strike goes on? Yes........it will be, no it is the Union Leaders who will not suffer in any way! Only mindless fools would allow that scenario to happen but there again.....the proof is in the pudding is it not?
I only feel sorry for those few public sector workers with a social conscience who were opposed to the strike but are forced into it by the bullying unions.
 >:(...you bet I am and will give no support to them at all.
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Re: Today is the big strike day
« Reply #1 on: 30 November 2011, 06:50:11 »

.... the bullying unions.
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You'd have a lot less favourable working conditions without them ......................
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Re: Today is the big strike day
« Reply #2 on: 30 November 2011, 07:41:24 »

Roads where very quiet this morning, made a nice change.  :D
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Re: Today is the big strike day
« Reply #3 on: 30 November 2011, 09:07:48 »

.... the bullying unions.
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You'd have a lot less favourable working conditions without them ......................


Yes, I would certainly agree with that - although some union activity has been questionable over the years - I think it essential that a dedicated, imaginative and responsible union movement continue so that people may have some representation in the work place.

With the penchant for many employers to look towards their own rewards and the bottom line before all else, the absence of union representation (or over regulation of it) would undoubtedly be, in my view, a retrograde step for the welfare of workers.

In all enterprises parties must have not only a responsibility to whatever enterprise they are associated with but, more importantly, they must have responsibility and show respect for each other as acrimony and conflict seldom conspire to build success.
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Re: Today is the big strike day
« Reply #4 on: 30 November 2011, 11:53:15 »

What percentage of members actually bothered to vote in this ballot ?

imo most people are just rather sheep who follow the one with the biggest mouth  ;)

I know of 2 teachers who because they knew there school was shut today, pulled a sicky ( on full pay ) yesterday and went down to southampton to watch a football match and stopped over night  >:( >:( >:(

No doubt they will be driving up the M1 this morning at highly illegal speeds so they can join there brothers on the picket line  >:( >:(
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« Reply #5 on: 30 November 2011, 12:01:56 »

What percentage of members actually bothered to vote in this ballot ?

imo most people are just rather sheep who follow the one with the biggest mouth  ;)

I know of 2 teachers who because they knew there school was shut today, pulled a sicky ( on full pay ) yesterday and went down to southampton to watch a football match and stopped over night  >:( >:( >:(

No doubt they will be driving up the M1 this morning at highly illegal speeds so they can join there brothers on the picket line  >:( >:(

Sterling fellows :y
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« Reply #6 on: 30 November 2011, 12:20:47 »

What percentage of members actually bothered to vote in this ballot ?

imo most people are just rather sheep who follow the one with the biggest mouth  ;)

I know of 2 teachers who because they knew there school was shut today, pulled a sicky ( on full pay ) yesterday and went down to southampton to watch a football match and stopped over night  >:( >:( >:(

No doubt they will be driving up the M1 this morning at highly illegal speeds so they can join there brothers on the picket line  >:( >:(

Hull started well, but Southampton finished a tiny bit better, not Saints best effort.  :y
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Re: Today is the big strike day
« Reply #7 on: 30 November 2011, 14:52:59 »

What percentage of members actually bothered to vote in this ballot ?

imo most people are just rather sheep who follow the one with the biggest mouth  ;)

I know of 2 teachers who because they knew there school was shut today, pulled a sicky ( on full pay ) yesterday and went down to southampton to watch a football match and stopped over night  >:( >:( >:(

No doubt they will be driving up the M1 this morning at highly illegal speeds so they can join there brothers on the picket line  >:( >:(

I think they'll find that they will need to produce a doctor's sick note for any sickness absence today, or else they will forfeit a day's pay.  At least that's how it's working in the NHS.
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Re: Today is the big strike day
« Reply #8 on: 30 November 2011, 15:11:50 »

I have been in meeting in Lincoln's Inn Fields most of day and this area was congregation point for many to hand out posters etc. The mess they have left behind is disgusting but could have been a lot worse - clean up bill for unions?
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Re: Today is the big strike day
« Reply #9 on: 30 November 2011, 15:17:52 »

i went for blood tests today i wasted my time and petrol they didnt tell me it would be shut total waste of time strikes dont work
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Re: Today is the big strike day
« Reply #10 on: 30 November 2011, 19:14:41 »

As a union rep (in the private sector) I fully endorse the need for unions and their right to protect erosion of pay or conditions for their members. HOWEVER, I feel that they must be realistic in their expectations and cannot see how they expect to be somehow exempt from the effects of the current economic climate that is hitting so many people in the private sector. Years ago many in the public sector had relatively poor rates of pay and to an extent this was compensated by better pensions. This hasnt been true for a while now.Pensions depend massively on investment and a healthy economy so they are bound to be affected surely? Moreover, whilst many with pensions in the private sector can expect their employers to match their pension contributions, many in the public sector expect them to double it. How can this be right when their jobs are paid for by us taxpayers? Dont know about you lot but my old final salary scheme has changed to a career average one simply because the company could no longer guarantee the old pension. I dont like it-but Id rather be told a realistic figure than a far nicer but unachievable one.
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Re: Today is the big strike day
« Reply #11 on: 30 November 2011, 20:34:35 »

Dont particularly agree with these strikes or there causes, but on the other hand at least someone has the backbone to stand up against the Government who have had there way whilst ignoring the working man for to long, its about time they started to experience some sort backlash. They live on there own planet with there 6 figure salaries and MPs claiming more in expenses than some honest hard working people earn in a year. its getting beyond a joke there are alot of people out there who work hard for what they get and have nothing left after paying living expenses each week hand to mouth one week to the next and still the greedy *astard* find ever more ways to extract money from there pockets. I dont care about the politics behind it all and the crap they come up with to justify it I am sick of hearing the *hit they spout on a daily basis telling us that we have to do this we have to do that to make it better in the long term. I am not at the base of the working ladder (although I soon will be if they get there way much longer) but I know and grew up with people that are, these people where not greedy, not claiming benefits and where happy with a working wage a packet of fags a few pints and a trip to the coast once a year (not to much to ask for a working man) but now even that has been taken from them, the cost of a pint (assuming you can still find a pub open after the Government destroyed the industry with over taxation, stupid rules and regulation) the price of a packet of fags + the cost of fuel (tax tax tax and more tax) has left people with little more than a roof and in some cases they are struggling with that. I know a guy who has worked for more than thirty years, last year he had to sell his car (a ten year old Ford) because at the end of the day he could no longer afford the cost associated with car ownership, he has been walking to work (3 miles@5 in the morning) ever since. How many members of government would do that to be left with nothing at the end of the month. (they would get a taxi and put it on the taxpayers bill, you know the guy who now has no option other than to walk) The same guy who works for his living enjoyed a drink at the weekend and liked a smoke. Before the anti drinking/smoking brigade get on there moral horse and say well its for his own good, I'm going to say now thats bo**ocks because this is what they had and enjoyed and theres got to be some enjoyment even if its not good for you. On the plus side he will now be able to work longer and live longer while he enjoys his life of *uck all.
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Re: Today is the big strike day
« Reply #12 on: 30 November 2011, 21:49:40 »

What percentage of members actually bothered to vote in this ballot ?

imo most people are just rather sheep who follow the one with the biggest mouth  ;)

I know of 2 teachers who because they knew there school was shut today, pulled a sicky ( on full pay ) yesterday and went down to southampton to watch a football match and stopped over night  >:( >:( >:(

No doubt they will be driving up the M1 this morning at highly illegal speeds so they can join there brothers on the picket line  >:( >:(

76% or thereabouts in favour

A doctors, even if private, fit note will have to be provided or they will not get paid....
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Re: Today is the big strike day
« Reply #13 on: 30 November 2011, 21:50:44 »

seems like people forgot history ; if unions were not there and didnt fight for it you all were working 16 hrs a day!
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Re: Today is the big strike day
« Reply #14 on: 30 November 2011, 22:14:43 »

Dont particularly agree with these strikes or there causes, but on the other hand at least someone has the backbone to stand up against the Government who have had there way whilst ignoring the working man for to long, its about time they started to experience some sort backlash//........


Yes, I think your piece very much describes the motivating factors behind what may well become the Cri de Coeur of people when they take to the streets, in number, in an effort to express their frustration and dissatisfaction.

I'm of the opinion there is ample evidence to suggest that, in the coming years, civil disturbances will become the norm rather than the exception as people organise in a determined fashion as they experience a deteriorating standard of living with little prospect of any improvement in the near future. 

More especially so when those at the top table of this society continue to sup handsomely on the best that the land provides.

So much for - ‘We’re all in this together’.
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