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[aaronjb]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2068180/The-tin-blue-line-The-incredible-police-barrier-used-anti-cuts-demonstrators-highjack-strikes-bid-cause-chaos.html

The look of those barriers is somehow disturbing. Like something out of 1984, or Brazil..

[Dishevelled Den]

Welcome to the United Kingdom of the new Millennium.

Of course the original idea was used in Northern Ireland - only in that case the barriers were of steel mesh and were deployed from each side of a Pig (Humber 1 Ton armoured car).

[aaronjb]

Of course the original idea was used in Northern Ireland - only in that case the barriers were of steel mesh and were deployed from each side of a Pig (Humber 1 Ton armoured car).

And I could certainly see them being used there - after all, NI was the scene of a bitter, drawn out, and at times incredibly violent (ok, more than 'at times') conflict involving guns, incendiaries and high explosives..

Here we're supposed to be talking about a few 'protestors' .. has the idea of peaceful protest fallen so far out of favour that we need to prepare for all out war?

[Dishevelled Den]

Yes it’s interesting to see how the forces of law and order are being sucked into adopting an increasingly militaristic stance in dealing with street disturbances (or the threat of them).

The true nature of the potential problem became evident when the police, very obviously, lost control of disturbingly large areas of several cities in last summer's disturbances.

While police tactics are undoubtedly being re-evaluated, there is no doubt in my mind that, when disturbances occur once again over widespread areas of the country, we will see policing of the kind used (by necessity) in Northern Ireland – past and present.

[Broomies Mate]

The stance is possibly taken to avoid such instances that were seen (cannot remember what the protest was for) but whereby a gentleman was 'batoned to death' by a police officer.

I'm just guessing here (as I have spent zero time in the Plod or any Protest March)...... The Police cannot do right for wrong.  If they use a 'force necessary to hold back' protesters who are obviouslt not there for peaceful reasons, they get brandished as thugs and hooligans / power hungry fools / etc etc.

My problem with these barriers, they will just move problems on to elsewhere.

Catch 22 for the Old Bill.

[cem_devecioglu]

looks like mobile Berlin wall

[millwall]

at least it gives plod somewhere safer to hide whilst arseholes are looting

[cem_devecioglu]

walls dont solve community problems

[millwall]

walls dont solve community problems

no but grenades would

[cem_devecioglu]

walls dont solve community problems

no but grenades would

 
 
seriously its a proven fact that in these kind of events  using brute force dont solve anything.. because after it pops up randomly here and there.. that you can never stop.. unless you solve it..

[Dishevelled Den]

Catch 22 for the Old Bill.

Yes, you've pretty much nailed it there R.

[Debs.]

"Them and us"...........not grammatical, but true all the same!

[Dishevelled Den]

"Them and us"...........not grammatical, but true all the same!

Sadly so, Deb.

[jonny2112]

Of course the original idea was used in Northern Ireland - only in that case the barriers were of steel mesh and were deployed from each side of a Pig (Humber 1 Ton armoured car).

Remember them well!

[albitz]

me too. ...............as said,the police are between a rock and a hard place.If they adopt these tactics they get stick for paramilitery style policing.If they dont,things often get well out of hand (as we have seen many times in the last couple of years)and they get stick because they should have been prepared and ready to cope with the situation.