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Re: I am So torn...
« Reply #30 on: 02 December 2011, 13:14:19 »

... as to whether or not to convert my Retail 3.2 MV6 Auto, into a manual  :-\

Apart from the odd, slightly rough gearchange, I have no 'faults' as such... I am just getting increasingly fed up with the autobox, when I want to make progress / give it some beans. I really miss the control of a manual.

I had a manual 3.0 once, and it was a whole lot of fun. I can only imagine a manual box on my 3.2, would make me smile.

It would also turn it into quite a rare beast - almost immaculate 3.2 retail MV6 Manual, with the recaro type leather etc...

What would you do?

1. Select sports mode
2. select 2nd gear on auto selector
3. turn OFF CID display so fuel consumption cannot be observed
4. floor it
5. try and stop smiling.

Those who say that an auto won't "make progress" don't know how to drive one properly.

:)

Those who think an auto is as fun to drive as a manual clearly arnt trying hard enough
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Re: I am So torn...
« Reply #31 on: 02 December 2011, 13:16:06 »

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Those who think an auto is as fun to drive as a manual clearly arnt trying hard enough

That all depends on what type of car the auto is and what type of car the manual is .......... ;) ;)
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Re: I am So torn...
« Reply #32 on: 02 December 2011, 14:57:15 »

Given the high clutch pedal and the vibration through it, signal box style throw on the gear lever, and the dual mass fly wheel issues of the very poor manual box, the auto is far more refind and i'll stick with that thanks.

Also given my comute, the traffic even on shift hours, and going anywhere near a town means queueing, Bah, i dont miss amanual tbh.

Slight annoyance is the pick up of the auto at the apex, which is long gone by the time drive is resumed after breaking.

Use sport mode more imo. :)
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Re: I am So torn...
« Reply #33 on: 02 December 2011, 14:58:52 »

Although the lower combined gearing of a five speed box would be nice...
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Re: I am So torn...
« Reply #34 on: 02 December 2011, 15:04:39 »

Slight annoyance is the pick up of the auto at the apex, which is long gone by the time drive is resumed after breaking.

More than a slight annoyance, that drives me absolutely batty! I was so disappointed to find that the Aston & R8 behaved exactly the same way (not that I drove them long enough to find the Sport button..) :(
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Re: I am So torn...
« Reply #35 on: 02 December 2011, 15:11:51 »

Slight annoyance is the pick up of the auto at the apex, which is long gone by the time drive is resumed after breaking.

More than a slight annoyance, that drives me absolutely batty! I was so disappointed to find that the Aston & R8 behaved exactly the same way (not that I drove them long enough to find the Sport button..) :(

Yep, that sums up my main frustration nicely. The very essence of a RWD car is being able to squeeze the power on at the apex, or a little before if you're feeling brave, and power out of the bend rather than understeer into the ditch. At best with an auto, you've got to get on the loud pedal so early that all your braking needs to be done stupidly early. At worst, it'll decide to drop a cog just as you've balanced the amount of power with the available grip. ::)
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Re: I am So torn...
« Reply #36 on: 02 December 2011, 15:21:07 »

Oh and James, you should have changed the 'box while you had the exhaust off... :-X

Why?

I didn't have a replacement box at the time, and the exhaust had to be changed to pass the MOT / keep me road legal?  :y

It's no hardship to pop it back off, if/when I change the box :y
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Re: I am So torn...
« Reply #37 on: 02 December 2011, 15:29:29 »

... as to whether or not to convert my Retail 3.2 MV6 Auto, into a manual  :-\

Apart from the odd, slightly rough gearchange, I have no 'faults' as such... I am just getting increasingly fed up with the autobox, when I want to make progress / give it some beans. I really miss the control of a manual.

I had a manual 3.0 once, and it was a whole lot of fun. I can only imagine a manual box on my 3.2, would make me smile.

It would also turn it into quite a rare beast - almost immaculate 3.2 retail MV6 Manual, with the recaro type leather etc...

What would you do?

You must have better things to spend your time on than this. Auto is for our age group. If you are fighting against the advancing years then stop immediately. Take the auto for a smooth drive somewhere nice (with someone you love or like) rather than work on it
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Re: I am So torn...
« Reply #38 on: 02 December 2011, 15:36:10 »

Oh and James, you should have changed the 'box while you had the exhaust off... :-X

Why?

I didn't have a replacement box at the time, and the exhaust had to be changed to pass the MOT / keep me road legal?  :y

It's no hardship to pop it back off, if/when I change the box :y
cant be that torn, as that was the perfect time to convert, with a bit of planning.
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Re: I am So torn...
« Reply #39 on: 02 December 2011, 16:38:39 »

Given the high clutch pedal and the vibration through it, signal box style throw on the gear lever, and the dual mass fly wheel issues of the very poor manual box, the auto is far more refind and i'll stick with that thanks.

Also given my comute, the traffic even on shift hours, and going anywhere near a town means queueing, Bah, i dont miss amanual tbh.

Slight annoyance is the pick up of the auto at the apex, which is long gone by the time drive is resumed after breaking.

Use sport mode more imo. :)

Lol, I used to find the manual an ok box to be honest (certainly mine was fine) and as we know, the DMF on these are pretty much trouble free (way more relaible than the auto box!).

As for the throw, for me it was fine but its not to hard to adjust either.......

Your clearly just getting to old, thought of buyinga  pikey wagon  :P ;D :y
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Re: I am So torn...
« Reply #40 on: 02 December 2011, 16:41:07 »


You must have better things to spend your time on than this. Auto is for our age group. If you are fighting against the advancing years then stop immediately. Take the auto for a smooth drive somewhere nice (with someone you love or like) rather than work on it

I am in my 20's?  ::)
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Re: I am So torn...
« Reply #41 on: 02 December 2011, 16:43:06 »


You must have better things to spend your time on than this. Auto is for our age group. If you are fighting against the advancing years then stop immediately. Take the auto for a smooth drive somewhere nice (with someone you love or like) rather than work on it

I am in my 20's?  ::)

I nearly posted that I thought you were a mere whippersnapper .. ;D
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Re: I am So torn...
« Reply #42 on: 02 December 2011, 16:46:27 »

Oh and James, you should have changed the 'box while you had the exhaust off... :-X

Why?

I didn't have a replacement box at the time, and the exhaust had to be changed to pass the MOT / keep me road legal?  :y

It's no hardship to pop it back off, if/when I change the box :y
cant be that torn, as that was the perfect time to convert, with a bit of planning.

Just because you know having the exhaust off would be needed to do the conversion, how do you know all of the other factors (work, family, time, money) that determine whether or not I wish to convert at this time?

Middle of winter with dark nights is hardly a 'perfect' time to convert.

Just because I'm not wanting to do it immediately, doesn't mean I'm 'not that torn' about whether or not I want to do it in the long run.

The fact I had removed the exhaust to change it, is irrelivent. It's hardly a long, or difficult job, is it?

MOT was approaching, I needed to pop a new exhaust on to pass that - not faff around converting a transmission at a time that didn't suit me.
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Re: I am So torn...
« Reply #43 on: 02 December 2011, 16:50:00 »

I must admit, the auto box on my 2.6 is the worst auto box I've ever driven (and I've been driving auto's for over 30 years), it tries to be too clever.....and fails.

Having said that, I wouldn't go back to a manual gearbox.
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Re: I am So torn...
« Reply #44 on: 02 December 2011, 16:53:28 »

....awaits TuBy's input on this..... ::)
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