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Kieran

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Re: Budget
« Reply #60 on: 12 March 2008, 21:32:53 »

I am going to keep my 2001 2.6 Omega.They will not take away my freedom and they know it.People  who drive large cars like us enjoy driving and the politicans know that we enjoy our pastime that is why they tax us so easy and get away with it. We really  need a proper goverment who works for the people and not a nanny state. >:(
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« Reply #61 on: 12 March 2008, 21:33:42 »

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SInce when did a prius create less emmisions than a moped?

I'm going to run the free tax cars off the road - I pay for them they don't >:( It's my road!

Yeh...break em.. ;D ;D ;D
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Re: Budget
« Reply #62 on: 12 March 2008, 21:35:44 »

Why should a <1972 car receive free RFL when in real terms they probably produce more CO2 than our miggys  :-/ >:(
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« Reply #63 on: 12 March 2008, 21:39:30 »

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Why should a <1972 car receive free RFL when in real terms they probably produce more CO2 than our miggys  :-/ >:(

Remember RFL is nothing to do with CO2 - it is just greenwash

Because this was a good step by a previous government to help the classic car owner, however this shower stopped it and upset all the classic car owners.
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« Reply #64 on: 12 March 2008, 21:40:09 »

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Why should a <1972 car receive free RFL when in real terms they probably produce more CO2 than our miggys  :-/ >:(

Remember RFL is nothing to do with CO2 - it is just greenwash

Because this was a good step by a previous government to help the classic car owner, however this shower stopped it and upset all the classic car owners.

Oh dear I sound like tory boy here ;D
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Re: Budget
« Reply #65 on: 12 March 2008, 22:20:51 »

right so we sorn at the end of feb 2009 then retax in march 09 at the low rate before these choppers put it up. have i got that right?

Who voted them in?? >:( >:( :(
absolutly everything they have meddled in they have buggered up.
why do we put up with it? its taking the piss now.
revolution :y
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« Reply #66 on: 12 March 2008, 22:31:18 »

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right so we sorn at the end of feb 2009 then retax in march 09 at the low rate before these choppers put it up. have i got that right?

Who voted them in?? >:( >:( :(
absolutly everything they have meddled in they have buggered up.
why do we put up with it? its taking the piss now.
revolution :y


Not me - after hearing the TSR2 story at a young age I would never be able to.
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Re: Budget
« Reply #67 on: 12 March 2008, 23:25:22 »

Right. CO2 info is here: http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1168647353

So, a post 2001 2.6 manual saloon just scrapes into band L and can be taxed in 2009 for a bargain 415 quid. All other V6s are 440.

All 2.2s are in band L - 415 quid.

2.2DTI is in band J - 260 quid.

I have a suspicion that pre-2001 cars are probably not that safe either. As soon as they get to be the minority and the "vulnerable" in society are driving newer cars that'll get hiked too.

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.. and did anyone notice the horsesh1t about plastic bags? That headline is a week old. Serious business this budget - so you'd expect the nation's finances for the next year to be the work of more than a few back of a fag packet calculations on the way to the commons this morning. But no, he couldn't resist a little knee-jerk to get a tabloid headline on that one.

Kevin
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Re: Budget
« Reply #68 on: 12 March 2008, 23:41:32 »

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right so we sorn at the end of feb 2009 then retax in march 09 at the low rate before these choppers put it up. have i got that right?

Who voted them in?? >:( >:( :(
absolutly everything they have meddled in they have buggered up.
why do we put up with it? its taking the piss now.
revolution :y


Not me - after hearing the TSR2 story at a young age I would never be able to.

heh? :question
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« Reply #69 on: 13 March 2008, 03:20:46 »

This is not about Co2 & being green. Ok you sell your old polluting car & buy a new car because you get cheaper VED & so you think you're helping the planet. CRAP
There's one thing that everyone fails to realize & that when a car is manurfactured from start to finish, the process actually produces more Co2 than the car will produce in its entire running life by burning fossile fuel. So in reality we're actually being greener by keeping older cars on the road for as long as possible.
If you drive in France for instance, you will see more older cars around than you you do here & why is this- snobbery- the Jone's syndrome, i've gotta have bigger, better, newer.


I personally have never voted Labour, nor will i. "New Labour", oh yes, we're certainly seeing that!!!!!!
They WHERE for the WORKING man.
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« Reply #70 on: 13 March 2008, 08:54:38 »

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If this goverment think that anyone driving a £70,000 "Chelsea tractor" is going to give a flying f*ck about paying a few hundred quid more in tax they couldn't be further off the mark. Whats more they have given them the perfect answer to anyone using the environment argument against them, in so much as "I'm entitled to drive this oversized vehical because I pay the tax for it." Government environment argument..........out of the window.


The only difference it may make is the trade-in value of the car. I mean if people on ordinary salaries buy a 3 year old chelsea tractor for £10,000 but then can't afford the road tax, all of sudden the trade in value of your £70,000 tractor becomes nothing.
It mat not cost them in the first place but it will cost them at trade in time because there 3 year old car is effectively worthless. so to buy a new car also becomes very expensive.

Just my 2p worth

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« Reply #71 on: 13 March 2008, 08:55:47 »

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This is not about Co2 & being green. Ok you sell your old polluting car & buy a new car because you get cheaper VED & so you think you're helping the planet. CRAP
There's one thing that everyone fails to realize & that when a car is manurfactured from start to finish, the process actually produces more Co2 than the car will produce in its entire running life by burning fossile fuel. So in reality we're actually being greener by keeping older cars on the road for as long as possible.
If you drive in France for instance, you will see more older cars around than you you do here & why is this- snobbery- the Jone's syndrome, i've gotta have bigger, better, newer.


I personally have never voted Labour, nor will i. "New Labour", oh yes, we're certainly seeing that!!!!!!
They WHERE for the WORKING man.


Well said, I could not agree more.

Mike
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« Reply #72 on: 13 March 2008, 09:03:22 »

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right so we sorn at the end of feb 2009 then retax in march 09 at the low rate before these choppers put it up. have i got that right?

Who voted them in?? >:( >:( :(
absolutly everything they have meddled in they have buggered up.
why do we put up with it? its taking the piss now.
revolution :y


Not me - after hearing the TSR2 story at a young age I would never be able to.

heh? :question

An ill fated fighter /bomber that cost you fathers generation two arms and a leg and was scrapped prior to production.
It looked stunning too.....
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Re: Budget
« Reply #73 on: 13 March 2008, 09:08:53 »

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right so we sorn at the end of feb 2009 then retax in march 09 at the low rate before these choppers put it up. have i got that right?

Who voted them in?? >:( >:( :(
absolutly everything they have meddled in they have buggered up.
why do we put up with it? its taking the piss now.
revolution :y
I think they are all the same, different names but all robbing b******* :(
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« Reply #74 on: 13 March 2008, 09:08:55 »

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right so we sorn at the end of feb 2009 then retax in march 09 at the low rate before these choppers put it up. have i got that right?

Who voted them in?? >:( >:( :(
absolutly everything they have meddled in they have buggered up.
why do we put up with it? its taking the piss now.
revolution :y


Not me - after hearing the TSR2 story at a young age I would never be able to.

heh? :question


TSR2

have a look here

http://www.thunder-and-lightnings.co.uk/tsr2/history.php

all will be revealed  :y
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