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[Olympia5776]

I've followed this thread with some sadness .
Since moving to Ireland four years ago I always yearned for the lower rate of vehicle duty in UK  when paying the grossly unfair VD over here. It looks like you're getting close to the horrific rates over here. We have a government that are in partnership with the Greens who are in charge of Transport  . They have pushed through some Draconian changes which will escalate through the life of this government.
To give you an idea of road tax ;
2lt    590 euro /annum
2.6   1067
3 lt   1231
over 3 lt  1491
76 p = 1 euro
There were VERY few MV6's sold in Ireland I'm told.
Couple this with a Vehicle registration tax that adds about 35% to the initial cost of a car it becomes rather expansive.
We drivers are a very convenient revenue stream.
Don

[Kevin Wood]

To give you an idea of road tax ;
2lt    590 euro /annum
2.6   1067
3 lt   1231
over 3 lt  1491
76 p = 1 euro

 

I think the road tax situation is going to be counter productive, TBH. Many people have to have a big car because they have the occasional need to tow something big, carry lots of people, etc. If the road tax wasn't so punitive I'd be happy to have a smaller runaround in addition for when I don't need a big car.

However, if I end up paying 450 quid for the Omega I'm damned well going to get my money's worth out of it, thanks. That means more mileage in my "gas guzzler" and zero likelihood of paying another load of tax on top of that for a less "dirty" runabout.

However, my more "dirty" runabout (with not even a catalytic converter) is pre-2001, so that's going to be staying.  

Kevin

[Martin_1962]

Time to run the free road tax cars off the road?

Also why do bikes pay road tax?

[geoff]

why don't they start taxing,insuring and mot push bikes,i mean if a push bike runs in to you and it is their fault you can't claim of them and they are allowed on the road scott free

[waspy]

Who was it on here that had the horse for sale  

[Kevin Wood]

why don't they start taxing,insuring and mot push bikes,i mean if a push bike runs in to you and it is their fault you can't claim of them and they are allowed on the road scott free

Ah, but push bikes are "zero carbon"*, aren't they?

* -  Only if you don't breathe when you're riding one, but it's beyond a politician to understand that.

Kevin

[waspy]

why don't they start taxing,insuring and mot push bikes,i mean if a push bike runs in to you and it is their fault you can't claim of them and they are allowed on the road scott free

Ah, but push bikes are "zero carbon"*, aren't they?

* -  Only if you don't breathe when you're riding one, but it's beyond a politician to understand that.

Kevin

Ok. You have a bicycle that you use for work & you leave the car at home. You still have to pay the ridiculous amount of VED.
That's what i hate  

[brett1408]

of course its got nothing to do with the environment, they could'nt care less, its a damn good excuse to make loads more money, my 1990 4 litre was under the cat test emission requirements on its mot, and it does'nt pollute like a cat car on warm up, so does that mean i should get lower tax ?!  bring back the tories, who cares about a bit of slease, everything would be cheaper again !

[VXL V6]

bring back the tories, who cares about a bit of slease, everything would be cheaper again !

I don't think it would, As per our last encounter with this 'brand', they are well on the way to bankrupting the country, They have borrowed, poorly invested and generally given anything of any value to some other country.

So even with a different 'brand' we'd still have to pay to balance the books to recover from the mismanagement

[Marks DTM Calib]

right so we sorn at the end of feb 2009 then retax in march 09 at the low rate before these choppers put it up. have i got that right?

Who voted them in??
absolutly everything they have meddled in they have buggered up.
why do we put up with it? its taking the piss now.
revolution

Not me - after hearing the TSR2 story at a young age I would never be able to.

heh? :question

An ill fated fighter /bomber that cost you fathers generation two arms and a leg and was scrapped prior to production.
It looked stunning too.....
Don

And destroyed the UK aviation industry in the process......

[Varche]

It is the "green" bandwagon that gets my goat. Sure it makes sense to look after our planet and even our backyard and someone has got to take a lead on it. After all you wouldn't dump Cr*p in your back garden unless your name was Trebus.

Road vehicles in the UK account for 28% of the CO2 emmissions. So what creates the rest and have they been taxed to death? NO. Have you ever seen the rubbish coming out of the chimney of a freighter?

Does this mean that the price of secondhand gas guzzling Omegas (etc) will plummet? Time to get into the export business methinks!! If we could convert an Omega to LHD we could flog em here at a nice premium. I'll drive them over and return in a Tata Nano for the cash conscious driver.

varche



  

[bob.dent]

AAAAHHHHHHGGGGG!!!! This govenment make me so angry.

Their justification for taxing the hell out of motorist based on CO2 emmissions is total bo!!ocks. CO2 emmissions from motor vehicles is responsible for only a tiny fraction of the worlds pollutants. Emmissions from aircraft are huge by comparison and as said in an earlier thread, third world countries, China and the US produce the worst. But the WORST pollution is a natural phemomena caused by methane emmissions produced by compressed fossils and plants beneath some of the huge frozen lakes in Russia and the Ukraine. This was highlighted in a TV programme recently whereby the methane emmissions were so strong that they could make a hole in the ice, ignite the gas, and produce a small explosion.

This is just another p!ss poor excuse for swindling the motorist out of yet more money to line the chancellors coffers.

[Nickbat]

The whole anthropogenic global warming thing is a huge hoax.

The problem is that dealing with a non-problem will cost around $53 trillion and achieve nothing.

Meanwhile the government will use the hoax to tax us again, and again, and again.

Is this what they want?

http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/2045

[HerefordElite]

The whole anthropogenic global warming thing is a huge hoax.

The problem is that dealing with a non-problem will cost around $53 trillion and achieve nothing.

Meanwhile the government will use the hoax to tax us again, and again, and again.

Is this what they want?

http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/2045

[/highlight]

I'll get my wellies then shall I

[waspy]

The whole anthropogenic global warming thing is a huge hoax.

The problem is that dealing with a non-problem will cost around $53 trillion and achieve nothing.

Meanwhile the government will use the hoax to tax us again, and again, and again.

Is this what they want?

http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/2045

I have this to say on whats high lighted- What's happening to our planet that is many millions of years old HAS happened many times before. There isn't a single square mile of our world that hasn't been covered in rain forest, ice, desert & sea in the past.
What's happened before WILL happen again, again & again & there's naff all we can do about it.
So yes they ALL jump on the global warming band wagon & tax the beep outa us & it's a damn excuse to do so.
But they know there's not alot we can do about it.
If they wana do some thing useful (apart from dieing) they should stop cutting down what keeps us alive & that's the Rain Forests.
All they care about is money, money, money, well monies no good when where all dead.
What i'm about to say is not all nice, but the best ting us humans could do is die off & leave this world to start again.