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Wagging the dog.....
« on: 16 March 2008, 11:30:09 »

200ft up on a 'Skyway' freeway-bridge: `not a time to forget whether it`s 'power-on' or 'brake' to regain control of  a divergently-oscillating trailer  :o

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=eda_1205641770
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Re: Wagging the dog.....
« Reply #1 on: 16 March 2008, 11:39:00 »

OH MY GOD!! nice driving to recover it though. :)
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« Reply #2 on: 16 March 2008, 12:03:23 »

That didn't look like a very sensible combination of load and towing vehicle, and would certainly not be legal in the UK. He was lucky the only damage was to his underpants.

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Re: Wagging the dog.....
« Reply #3 on: 16 March 2008, 14:55:50 »

I once saw a Caravan get turned over like that... on the A5 heading from Oswestry to shrewsbury...    on the uphill stretch away from the esso garage services roundabout at the oswestry end ...

I saw it start to oscillate, and made the executive decision to floor it and get well past it before it flipped over and landed on my bonnet

(back in the early 90's  in a VERY fast Sennie B)

I passed him in about 2 seconds flat, and then watched the horror unfold in my rear view mirror..... as soon as I was sure it was going over  I phoned the emergency services, it went over as the 999 operator asked which service I required....      since it took the Volvo 360 towing it with it, I suggested all 3 might be an idea...

slightly naughtily, and to my shame, (, yes really, it's still a slight twinge on my conscience 15 years later)   I didn't hang around to do more...    I was on my Way down to High Wycombe and had to pick my 4 year old daughter up from School at 3, while my wife & her family were at her father's deathbed in the hospital...   it was already 12.45 , (now THAT was one seriously unplanned journey!   at ANY other time I would have stopped and gone back to help.  It was a tough decision...  and I was torn...    I explained my dilemma to the operator,  and carried on...   giving my name and both addresses (splitting time between a house on Anglesey,  and the house in Wycombe at the time because of work)  in case they wanted a later statement and to satisfy their records...   I never heard anything on it though.

I still wonder, and hope, that everyone got out okay in the end....  
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Re: Wagging the dog.....
« Reply #4 on: 16 March 2008, 15:38:07 »

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I once saw a Caravan get turned over like that... on the A5 heading from Oswestry to shrewsbury...    on the uphill stretch away from the esso garage services roundabout at the oswestry end ...

I saw it start to oscillate, and made the executive decision to floor it and get well past it before it flipped over and landed on my bonnet

(back in the early 90's  in a VERY fast Sennie B)

I passed him in about 2 seconds flat, and then watched the horror unfold in my rear view mirror..... as soon as I was sure it was going over  I phoned the emergency services, it went over as the 999 operator asked which service I required....      since it took the Volvo 360 towing it with it, I suggested all 3 might be an idea...

slightly naughtily, and to my shame, (, yes really, it's still a slight twinge on my conscience 15 years later)   I didn't hang around to do more...    I was on my Way down to High Wycombe and had to pick my 4 year old daughter up from School at 3, while my wife & her family were at her father's deathbed in the hospital...   it was already 12.45 , (now THAT was one seriously unplanned journey!   at ANY other time I would have stopped and gone back to help.  It was a tough decision...  and I was torn...    I explained my dilemma to the operator,  and carried on...   giving my name and both addresses (splitting time between a house on Anglesey,  and the house in Wycombe at the time because of work)  in case they wanted a later statement and to satisfy their records...   I never heard anything on it though.

I still wonder, and hope, that everyone got out okay in the end....  

& what would've happened if you where late arriving for her  :o
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Re: Wagging the dog.....
« Reply #5 on: 16 March 2008, 16:35:31 »

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200ft up on a 'Skyway' freeway-bridge: `not a time to forget whether it`s 'power-on' or 'brake' to regain control of  a divergently-oscillating trailer  :o

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=eda_1205641770


I'm not sure braking or power on would have helped, it was all down to luck of not going over. The thing that puzzles me is the car following didn't slow down. If it had gone over, I think they would have piled straight into it.
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Re: Wagging the dog.....
« Reply #6 on: 16 March 2008, 17:40:06 »

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200ft up on a 'Skyway' freeway-bridge: `not a time to forget whether it`s 'power-on' or 'brake' to regain control of  a divergently-oscillating trailer  :o

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=eda_1205641770


I'm not sure braking or power on would have helped, it was all down to luck of not going over. The thing that puzzles me is the car following didn't slow down. If it had gone over, I think they would have piled straight into it.

It was already oscillating quite badly at the start of the clip so I think by that time the driver was a passenger. I'd say he was driving too fast with too much load for the towing vehicle, and with a load that size the wind loading would have been high. Given that he's on a bridge a gust probably set it off. However, you can feel when a combination is getting a bit unstable long before that kind of this happens and the sensible thing to do is to slow down.

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Re: Wagging the dog.....
« Reply #7 on: 16 March 2008, 20:05:37 »

sensible and american two things that don`t go together... ;)
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Re: Wagging the dog.....
« Reply #8 on: 16 March 2008, 20:56:04 »

Looks like a trailer weave situation but i'm not sure why. Im guessing an ill disributed load i.e too much weight to the rear of the trailer lifting the weight off the drive axle on the unit. I'm not sure if it is an artic or a rigid. If it's an artic it's a short trailer which can be more unstable than the usual 40/45 footer & although shorter harder to reverse.
    Spectacular nonetheless!!! 8-)
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