No guys, your missing the point. Constant inferance that that oe system is "a turd", reguardless of the thread title means the unwary will wonder off looking for ways to improve it, only to find this and that doesnt work. Costing members money and agro.
The only reason the ice industry dont like the system is they cant sell us anything to add to it or replace it with. Frustrating for both partys true enough. But to insite anyone to go the only way is essex, turn the yoof into chavs and fill the dash with gay leds because of it, well, they deserve shooting, if i had MY way!
I mean have been to an in car entertainment supplier lately? Chav city! No i'll take the ie system thanks. Keep my cash in my pocket, not thiers.
20 years on the oe system. Lets see the latest chav crap last as long.
Although obviously i take your perfectly reasonable point re paper speakers. If only the rest of Daves views where as reasonable.
I would suggest save the turd polishing, and find a solution! I mean who's the expert here? The perfectionist? This trim piece doesnt quite fit etc. Yet we're expected to accept loss of functions with chav crap instead. Yeah, wo'ever! Seriously...!