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Harmful lifter treatment?
« on: 24 December 2011, 21:05:29 »

Heard that lifter treatment might be harmful for oil pump and some seals. I'm concerned a wee bit cos I use treatment but don't want to cause any harm her. Any experience?   TIA     Laszlo
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Re: Harmful lifter treatment?
« Reply #1 on: 24 December 2011, 21:16:01 »

Heard that lifter treatment might be harmful for oil pump and some seals. I'm concerned a wee bit cos I use treatment but don't want to cause any harm her. Any experience?   TIA     Laszlo

Wynns lifter treatment is really good, personally I have heard no bad reports about it either.  Perhaps they were meaning Engine Flush?
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Re: Harmful lifter treatment?
« Reply #2 on: 24 December 2011, 21:37:35 »

Nope. I'm inquering strictly about Wynn's or similar lifter treatments, which are found in shops.
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Re: Harmful lifter treatment?
« Reply #3 on: 24 December 2011, 21:50:15 »

In which case I have said my answer.
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Re: Harmful lifter treatment?
« Reply #4 on: 24 December 2011, 22:07:41 »

Thank you , Sir for quick answer! Merry Christmas !  :) :) :)
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Re: Harmful lifter treatment?
« Reply #5 on: 24 December 2011, 22:16:16 »

Thank you , Sir for quick answer! Merry Christmas !  :) :) :)


You too :)
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Re: Harmful lifter treatment?
« Reply #6 on: 24 December 2011, 22:33:33 »

Used wynns LT many times. Had nothing but good results.
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Re: Harmful lifter treatment?
« Reply #7 on: 24 December 2011, 22:36:12 »

Only used Wynns once but would recommend.  :y
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Re: Harmful lifter treatment?
« Reply #8 on: 24 December 2011, 22:43:22 »

Okay guys, I've been using that without any harm I just wanted to be sure. Thx again!  :y
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Re: Harmful lifter treatment?
« Reply #9 on: 25 December 2011, 10:26:30 »

Wynns lifter treatment is good stuff.

problem is crap in the hyd lifters giving you a noisy top end.

car in the past has not been giving regular oil changes hence the noisy top end.
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Re: Harmful lifter treatment?
« Reply #10 on: 25 December 2011, 12:28:20 »

With regard to the said hydraulic lifters, I have heard people say that once the oil is in from first start up it is almost impossible that this gets flushed when doing an oil change due to the hydrostatic properties keeping it in place. If this is true then that oil is the original 'first fill' oil. This then degrades and causes varnish deposits on the lifters (inside) stopping them from doing there job correctly, in which case they would then act as solid lifters. Can somebody with the appropriate skills, a 'subject matter expert' so to speak clarify this.
Absolute confirmation or denial with proof would be good.

You see if it's true, then no amount of 'lifter treatment' would be doing any good as it would not be getting into the 'hydraulic' parts of the lifters, if you see what I mean.

Something to ponder on boxing day, rather than watching repeats of James Bond or Bedknobs and Broomsticks or whatever.

Enjoy!!! :y

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Re: Harmful lifter treatment?
« Reply #11 on: 25 December 2011, 21:29:54 »

used it loads of times on all makes of motor,
never believed it could work until i spoke to an oil engineer ???
at the internal combustion engine centre of esso,
I kid you not,

this ishow he explained it to me and how to use it for best results,

the lifter treatment is although thicker gloopier stuff than normal engine oil,actualy engineered to be lighter/thinner than normal oil when its hot, this lightness allows it to get to the top of the engine and into the lifters(now im not using his technical term here for ease of explanation, so i used the word lighter!)
it starts to clean  the working parts of the lifter allowing them to  work properly again as well as taking up the slack where normal engine oil cannot,  however it cn only work properly when added to an engine that is up to working temperature, and is then driven to high revs for a few miles, this allows it a chance of getting up there and starting to work,if its just added to the engine and forgotten about it may not be as effective, he also said that if an engine has been neglected on its oil changes it may not work properly,ditto with lifters that are worn through dirty oil, and will require repeated doses, we  were shown some before and after video,s and charts/logs on engine effiecency and it did show a difference,the most impressive one was a rover v8 with slightly worn lobes on the cam, and very noisy lifters, its made more power and torque!!! I used it in my omega td when i first got it and it really did help the engine noise, albeit there was one lifter that was always noisy throughout the 6 years i had it :y 

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Re: Harmful lifter treatment?
« Reply #12 on: 26 December 2011, 11:50:20 »

you can get the same result by putting in half a litre of transmission fluid,however at your own risk people. :y
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Re: Harmful lifter treatment?
« Reply #13 on: 26 December 2011, 11:56:18 »

Thanks guys,I really really appreciate your answers!  :) :) :)
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Re: Harmful lifter treatment?
« Reply #14 on: 26 December 2011, 20:09:14 »

used it loads of times on all makes of motor,
never believed it could work until i spoke to an oil engineer ???
at the internal combustion engine centre of esso,
I kid you not,

this ishow he explained it to me and how to use it for best results,

the lifter treatment is although thicker gloopier stuff than normal engine oil,actualy engineered to be lighter/thinner than normal oil when its hot, this lightness allows it to get to the top of the engine and into the lifters(now im not using his technical term here for ease of explanation, so i used the word lighter!)
it starts to clean  the working parts of the lifter allowing them to  work properly again as well as taking up the slack where normal engine oil cannot,  however it cn only work properly when added to an engine that is up to working temperature, and is then driven to high revs for a few miles, this allows it a chance of getting up there and starting to work,if its just added to the engine and forgotten about it may not be as effective, he also said that if an engine has been neglected on its oil changes it may not work properly,ditto with lifters that are worn through dirty oil, and will require repeated doses, we  were shown some before and after video,s and charts/logs on engine effiecency and it did show a difference,the most impressive one was a rover v8 with slightly worn lobes on the cam, and very noisy lifters, its made more power and torque!!! I used it in my omega td when i first got it and it really did help the engine noise, albeit there was one lifter that was always noisy throughout the 6 years i had it :y

you've convinced me G. a job I will be doing on next trip to Scotland!
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