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[hotel21]

When we bought our present house it was a mortgage repo and needed decoration top to toe.  And it got it.

The then current fashion 'must have' was artexed ceilings. Managed to dissuade her from artex on the walls, thank goodness but she managed to get all (and I mean ALL) roofs done in a 4 bed house....).

Question is, looks fine in bedrooms and toilets and stuff, but the lounge/dining room needs re-decorated overall.  Would it be easier but messier to remove plasterboard roofing panels in entirety or knock biggest lumps off and simply place new boards on top of existing?  House is 1960's ex-council stylee - big rooms but bog standard ceiling height - so, what does the group experience of OOF recommend?

I know what I intend to do but interested in the 'professional'/experienced DIY type comments...   

[RobG]

When we bought our present house it was a mortgage repo and needed decoration top to toe.  And it got it.

The then current fashion 'must have' was artexed ceilings. Managed to dissuade her from artex on the walls, thank goodness but she managed to get all (and I mean ALL) roofs done in a 4 bed house....).

Question is, looks fine in bedrooms and toilets and stuff, but the lounge/dining room needs re-decorated overall.  Would it be easier but messier to remove plasterboard roofing panels in entirety or knock biggest lumps off and simply place new boards on top of existing?  House is 1960's ex-council stylee - big rooms but bog standard ceiling height - so, what does the group experience of OOF recommend?

I know what I intend to do but interested in the 'professional'/experienced DIY type comments...   

Easiest way B

[Ken T]

In my last place one ceiling had been artexed and they just nailed plasterboard below and skimmed it. Nice and quick and hides things, until I came to rewire it

Ken

[CaptainZok]

Get yer Stokie offspring up with a block of sandpaper, it should keep him out of mischief for a while.

[hotel21]

Easiest way B

But the question is, does it look like what it is, i.e. boards on top of a crappy surface??

[hotel21]

Get yer Stokie offspring up with a block of sandpaper, it should keep him out of mischief for a while.

That was seriously considered, alongwith a hooley bar and a hoover.....   

edit to explain what a hooley bar is, for the uninitiated....   

http://gearpatrol.com/blog/2010/09/03/halligan-hooligan-bar/

[Entwood]

If you intend to cover, and the existing is "solid" .. ie not falling off just unsightly, why not just have the whole thing skimmed by a competent plasterer ?? Unless the pattern is very deep a skim would cover it all over without reducing ceiling height  ??

[hotel21]

The sitting room is quite subdued whilst the dining room is more the Alps style.  Sadly they are joined into an 'L' shape so one runs into the other.

I am currently favouring complete removal and reboarding/replastering as that way, we will get a nice flat ceiling without incursion into roof height and/or feeling like the ceiling is the reflection of the sea in a force 8 swell....

[Tony H]

If you intend to cover, and the existing is "solid" .. ie not falling off just unsightly, why not just have the whole thing skimmed by a competent plasterer ?? Unless the pattern is very deep a skim would cover it all over without reducing ceiling height  ??

That maybe the best way to go Broocie some earlie artexing contained large amounts of asbestos. Not the stuff you want to start disturbing by ripping out.

[hotel21]

If you intend to cover, and the existing is "solid" .. ie not falling off just unsightly, why not just have the whole thing skimmed by a competent plasterer ?? Unless the pattern is very deep a skim would cover it all over without reducing ceiling height  ??

That maybe the best way to go Broocie some earlie artexing contained large amounts of asbestos. Not the stuff you want to start disturbing by ripping out.

Noted Tony, thanks.  Job done circa 1991/1992 with a product called Newtex Gold.  Just done a quick and dirty google and it appears that it is asbestos heavy so perhaps not the best of stuff to rip out willy nilly.   

[Tony H]

If you intend to cover, and the existing is "solid" .. ie not falling off just unsightly, why not just have the whole thing skimmed by a competent plasterer ?? Unless the pattern is very deep a skim would cover it all over without reducing ceiling height  ??

That maybe the best way to go Broocie some earlie artexing contained large amounts of asbestos. Not the stuff you want to start disturbing by ripping out.

Noted Tony, thanks.  Job done circa 1991/1992 with a product called Newtex Gold.  Just done a quick and dirty google and it appears that it is asbestos heavy so perhaps not the best of stuff to rip out willy nilly.   

One of my neibours had artexing removed that contained asbestos the room and windows  had to be sheeted up, the debree put in special bags and specially disposed of which added considerably to the cost of the re furbishment of the room

[hotel21]

If you intend to cover, and the existing is "solid" .. ie not falling off just unsightly, why not just have the whole thing skimmed by a competent plasterer ?? Unless the pattern is very deep a skim would cover it all over without reducing ceiling height  ??

That maybe the best way to go Broocie some earlie artexing contained large amounts of asbestos. Not the stuff you want to start disturbing by ripping out.

Noted Tony, thanks.  Job done circa 1991/1992 with a product called Newtex Gold.  Just done a quick and dirty google and it appears that it is asbestos heavy so perhaps not the best of stuff to rip out willy nilly.   

One of my neibours had artexing removed that contained asbestos the room and windows  had to sheeted up, the debree put in special bags and disposed of which added considerably to the cost of the re feurbishment

Not wanting to sound too hardnosed but I suppose its down to what and how you do the job.....   

[Ken T]

Yes the mess created ripping down a ceiling, is a lot, whereas putting up new boards below and a quick skim, and it doesn't matter too much how accurate you will not notice.

Ken

PS sell the place soon after, just like a car 

[Ken T]

Get yer Stokie offspring up with a block of sandpaper, it should keep him out of mischief for a while.

That was seriously considered, alongwith a hooley bar and a hoover.....   

edit to explain what a hooley bar is, for the uninitiated....   

http://gearpatrol.com/blog/2010/09/03/halligan-hooligan-bar/

Funnily enough my son got me one of these as an Xmas present http://gearpatrol.com/blog/2008/04/16/stanley-fatmax-xtreme-fubar-utility-bar/

I wonder why ?.

Ken

[Entwood]

My thoughts were .. artex is not "flat" by definition ... therefore putting new boards over the existing artex and getting a level surface on all boards is going to be somewhat tricky....

Assuming your existing surface is decent, and the ceiling is not distorted due to movement of the present boards, then a skim - done properly - would give a uniform flat surface.. ?