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[millwall]

i certainly wouldnt have a problem  will be interesting to see how it all pans out once up and running

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-16722703

[Omega_Dan]

Sound very practical to me seeing their broad range of skills

[OOMV6]

Sound very practical to me seeing their broad range of skills

Unfortunately one of the skills they may not have is teaching.....

[Omega_Dan]

Sound very practical to me seeing their broad range of skills

Unfortunately one of the skills they may not have is teaching.....

As they come from a well disciplined environment i think it may come to them naturally.

[Johnny English]

Sound very practical to me seeing their broad range of skills

Agreed!    I'd been serving for 1.5yrs in the Army 20yrs ago it was compulsory for us. Nowadays I see that there is no discipline in youth generation. No respect of age they know well their rights but nothing about the duty. 

[mantahatch]

Great in pricipal, but sadly they will be bound by all the same rules today's teachers are hampered by.

[Gaffers]

By chance I met the officer who is heading this up.  He gave a few presentations on Tuesday long before I read this article or knew he was setting this up and commented to myself he would make a great teacher.

I spoke to him about it and he is genuinely enthused and seems to have a good grasp on what he needs to do in order to run a school.  The application is in with DFE right now and he waiting on the reply.

To say that former or current members of the armed forces would not make good teachers shows a lack of knowledge of the people who have and continue to make up our armed forces.  A large number of them are instructors in one or a number of subjects and to get promoted now you have to complete a qualification which deals exclusively with instruction.  That means unless you can deliver a decent lesson you cannot promote!  We also have a cohort of officers whose sole job is teaching.

I am not saying that you can leave the army one day and become a teacher the next.  There are training and qualification requirements which have to be met, but what sets them apart is their bearing, attitude and charisma.  These are all strong leadership attributes which many feel are lacking in some of today's classrooms.  NCOs and Officers have a deliate touch of NLP as well which will go a long way to deal with disruptive individuals.  It is clear the soft-touch approach does not work with all pupils, in fact I would agrue that today it works with very few.

Arfan has done his homework, many in the Asian community are very supportive of this venture a clear sign that they too feel that conventional methods do not suit everyone.  Pupils of all races and creeds have difficulties at school and the plan to have a mixed one will also go a long way to developing an understanding betwen cultures.

Good luck to him, I will be checking in and seeing how this one goes

[Martian]

I'd have no problem in sending my kids to a school that is run by ex members of the armed forces. I would also be making sure that overpaid, know nothing, breakwits such as Mary Bousted were out of the door as well because they serve no purpose whatsoever and are simply a drain on the finances. 

Turning soldiers into teachers with no training is like trying to turn teachers into soldiers with no training, she argues, saying plans for the school are based on a shaky academic foundation.

I'm sure there will be plenty of time to sort out a training course for those that have never taught before.

They seem to believe routine drills and discipline is what these children need. Well, some of them may need it, but not all of them will.

What planet is this woman on?

"The opening manifesto was laughable... when they start getting into a philosophical discussion about respect and self-respect - this is not a sound place on which to build a school"

Come on then Mary, just what is a "sound place" on which to build an educational establishment?
I'd say that respect & discipline are two qualities that are needed to build anything on, unfortunately they went out of the window when the PC brigade got in and look where it got us!

I suspect that Mary and the rest of the "lets wrap them up in cotton wool and find someone else to blame" brigade are secretly worried that the proposed system is actually going to work just like it did back in the 70's and will be a resounding success.

[SIR Philbutt]

I'd have no problem in sending my kids to a school that is run by ex members of the armed forces. I would also be making sure that overpaid, know nothing, breakwits such as Mary Bousted were out of the door as well because they serve no purpose whatsoever and are simply a drain on the finances. 

Turning soldiers into teachers with no training is like trying to turn teachers into soldiers with no training, she argues, saying plans for the school are based on a shaky academic foundation.

I'm sure there will be plenty of time to sort out a training course for those that have never taught before.

They seem to believe routine drills and discipline is what these children need. Well, some of them may need it, but not all of them will.

What planet is this woman on?

"The opening manifesto was laughable... when they start getting into a philosophical discussion about respect and self-respect - this is not a sound place on which to build a school"

Come on then Mary, just what is a "sound place" on which to build an educational establishment?
I'd say that respect & discipline are two qualities that are needed to build anything on, unfortunately they went out of the window when the PC brigade got in and look where it got us!

I suspect that Mary and the rest of the "lets wrap them up in cotton wool and find someone else to blame" brigade are secretly worried that the proposed system is actually going to work just like it did back in the 70's and will be a resounding success.

Simple case of "I didnt come up with it so i'm not going to support it" mentality of a jobsworth

Sounds like the right idea to me

[the alarming man]

the little darlings wont know what as hit them lol

[Rods2]

What fools like Mary Bousted don't realize is that they are the problem. If the last 20 years with these fools in charge our schools have dropped like a stone in the international education league tables, despite record amounts being spent on education.  And produced record numbers of unemployable youngsters. 

Would I send my children to a school run by ex-military based upon discipline and competition, definitely. 

It is good to see that the Government has started a fast track system for training ex-military to become teachers. I also think their worldly experiences will hold them in good stead, compared to the normal teacher training routes.

Personally, I think further improvements could be made by streaming pupils again as mixed ability classes IMO don't work. I also think that we should take a leaf out of Germany's book where the less academically gifted (we don't want or need a nation of brain surgeons, but a range of skills at different academic levels), get the opportunity to start learning a trade from 14+ as I think this would not only provide a better trained and educated workforce, but would also help to motivate them in subjects where they may not be doing well by teaching these in a practical ways. In English they could learn how to write quotations and write and answer letters of complaint etc. and maths lean how to estimate and order quantities of materials for a job, and practical measuring skills.

I think Michael Gove is one of the Government's better ministers who is trying to change a system, which will resist by trying  keep the values of that fool Mary Bousted and her ilk.

[albitz]

I also think the Michael Gove is one of the better ministers in the current govt.
Imo, bring back grammar schools,but rename them "special needs schools for those with leanings towards academia", to try to keep the Marxists morons at bay.They have all but destroyed the education system in this country with their one size fits all experiment.
Its an absolute scandal what they have done to the last couple of generations of children.

[russ0205]

After meeting the little darlings i bet they wish they were teaching the taliban it might be easier.

 

[Rods2]

It will bring a whole new meaning to those field trips.

Johnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnny, donnnnnnnnnnnnnn't step outside the tape it hasn't been cleared of IEDs. 

[Gaffers]

It will bring a whole new meaning to those field trips.

Johnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnny, donnnnnnnnnnnnnn't step outside the tape it hasn't been cleared of IEDs. 

 

its funny cos its true