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Scrapping old PCs etc
« on: 29 January 2012, 11:54:59 »

Just reviewing horded pc stuff. I have whipped out the hard drives for security but are components from 7 year old pcs worth anything - is there a home for this stuff rather than just the local recycling place - is it worth even thinking about?

My natural tight tendency has been to remove the memory and power supply (AMD Athlon badged - 400w) - memory I can check on ebay but is 512mb DDR PC2700. Rest I would just dump in my view. Any suggestions.

Also have a 2000 HP Laptop which I keep for god knows what reason - cost £2000 in those days - museum?
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Re: Scrapping old PCs etc
« Reply #1 on: 29 January 2012, 12:32:37 »

Just reviewing horded pc stuff. I have whipped out the hard drives for security but are components from 7 year old pcs worth anything - is there a home for this stuff rather than just the local recycling place - is it worth even thinking about?

My natural tight tendency has been to remove the memory and power supply (AMD Athlon badged - 400w) - memory I can check on ebay but is 512mb DDR PC2700. Rest I would just dump in my view. Any suggestions.

Also have a 2000 HP Laptop which I keep for god knows what reason - cost £2000 in those days - museum?
If the lappy has a serial port then there's a market for it in the LPG industry... I think  :-\

I find that 2nd hand PC parts, especially old ones, have very little value
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Re: Scrapping old PCs etc
« Reply #2 on: 29 January 2012, 15:22:42 »

Just had my trusty P4 pack up. Don't know what is wrong with it. Tried a different motherboard, different hard drives, might be the power pack I suppose. I have resigned myself to a new S/H box. Not from here in Spain where prices are just barmy.

Had a wander around the massive car boot sale in Malaga this morning. Nearly every stall had motherboards, 250w power supplies, memory just lying around with people picking them up. One guy actually trod on one trying to look at some other tat for sale. Can't see any of them ever working again as all really old stuff.

Shame I don't live nearer as I would have had a desktop off you.
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Re: Scrapping old PCs etc
« Reply #3 on: 29 January 2012, 16:17:50 »



If the lappy has a serial port then there's a market for it in the LPG industry... I think  :-\


Or for cheapy Tech 2, IIRC?
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Re: Scrapping old PCs etc
« Reply #4 on: 29 January 2012, 16:25:32 »


If the lappy has a serial port then there's a market for it in the LPG industry... I think  :-\


Indeed. Not just LPG either. Plenty of applications where those cr@p USB serial converters don't work. I'd never chuck a laptop with a real serial port.

The rest of it is probably not worth trying to sell. Lob it on your local freecycle site. Someone might be glad of it.

If I can be bothered I tend to wipe PCs, lob the original OS on and put it on freecycle. Always someone looking for a PC for their kids, etc.
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Re: Scrapping old PCs etc
« Reply #5 on: 29 January 2012, 20:22:10 »

I've been doing similar...  ...except not going through them, just putting in that large black plastic thing on wheels, for the council to deal with ::)
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« Reply #6 on: 30 January 2012, 10:11:33 »

Plenty of applications where those cr@p USB serial converters don't work.
Tell me about it.
I have a Cisco 8 port managed gigabit switch that decided to corrupt it's OS after a reboot one day, but I can't get in to the console to issue the reset command because I've not managed to find a convertor that can actually send the comms correctly  :(
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Re: Scrapping old PCs etc
« Reply #7 on: 30 January 2012, 12:31:16 »

just taken stuff to recycling - kept dvd units,power supply, hard drive and memory for no particular reason - just old habits die hard - got rid of printer stored in garage.

At least made a start.
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Re: Scrapping old PCs etc
« Reply #8 on: 30 January 2012, 18:44:11 »

Plenty of applications where those cr@p USB serial converters don't work.
Tell me about it.
I have a Cisco 8 port managed gigabit switch that decided to corrupt it's OS after a reboot one day, but I can't get in to the console to issue the reset command because I've not managed to find a convertor that can actually send the comms correctly  :(
Oddly, I find Cisco (and networking kit in general) is fine on usb>serial devices.  Its only bit-bashed devices that give grief IME (Cisco, scum of the earth, give me plenty of other grief, just not that ;D)
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Re: Scrapping old PCs etc
« Reply #9 on: 30 January 2012, 21:48:23 »


If the lappy has a serial port then there's a market for it in the LPG industry... I think  :-\


And for DIY CNC conversions.
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« Reply #10 on: 04 February 2012, 11:12:22 »

Plenty of applications where those cr@p USB serial converters don't work.
Tell me about it.
I have a Cisco 8 port managed gigabit switch that decided to corrupt it's OS after a reboot one day, but I can't get in to the console to issue the reset command because I've not managed to find a convertor that can actually send the comms correctly  :(
Oddly, I find Cisco (and networking kit in general) is fine on usb>serial devices.  Its only bit-bashed devices that give grief IME (Cisco, scum of the earth, give me plenty of other grief, just not that ;D)
I can telnet in to the console and bring up the list of commands available without a problem, however it just won't respond correctly to the delete command when used with a USB > RS232 emu (at least not the ones I've tried).

The same fault occured once before and Cisco sent out a replacement which is still under warranty, I just can't be arsed to spend another £15 posting it back to the Netherlands.
From what I've read on the net it is (or was) a common fault where one file corrupts itself occasionally when you are in the web management making changes, the fix is simply to delete the offending file through the console and it automatically gets rebuilt on the next boot up.

I still have it sat in the box doing absolutely bugger all other than taking up a bit of space, you can have it for free if you have a use for it.
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Re: Scrapping old PCs etc
« Reply #11 on: 04 February 2012, 16:48:35 »

Durabook do a laptop with a serial port on it-- using one at moment ( approx 1 1/4 years old) but costs approx £1000
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Re: Scrapping old PCs etc
« Reply #12 on: 04 February 2012, 16:56:09 »

Plenty of applications where those cr@p USB serial converters don't work.
Tell me about it.
I have a Cisco 8 port managed gigabit switch that decided to corrupt it's OS after a reboot one day, but I can't get in to the console to issue the reset command because I've not managed to find a convertor that can actually send the comms correctly  :(
Oddly, I find Cisco (and networking kit in general) is fine on usb>serial devices.  Its only bit-bashed devices that give grief IME (Cisco, scum of the earth, give me plenty of other grief, just not that ;D)
I can telnet in to the console and bring up the list of commands available without a problem, however it just won't respond correctly to the delete command when used with a USB > RS232 emu (at least not the ones I've tried).

The same fault occured once before and Cisco sent out a replacement which is still under warranty, I just can't be arsed to spend another £15 posting it back to the Netherlands.
From what I've read on the net it is (or was) a common fault where one file corrupts itself occasionally when you are in the web management making changes, the fix is simply to delete the offending file through the console and it automatically gets rebuilt on the next boot up.

I still have it sat in the box doing absolutely bugger all other than taking up a bit of space, you can have it for free if you have a use for it.

What are you trying to delete?

Startup-Config? Running-Config? the IOS?

Tend to use any good old D series Dell Latitude I can get my hands on for my work (Cisco, Juniper, 3Com etc) due to them having a proper serial port, what you tend to find is that the USB convertors don't allow you to send the Break sequence correctly and therefore you cannot get into ROMMON on a Cisco device at bootup.

Incidently, what Cisco switch is it?
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Re: Scrapping old PCs etc
« Reply #13 on: 04 February 2012, 17:58:37 »


What are you trying to delete?

Startup-Config? Running-Config? the IOS?

Tend to use any good old D series Dell Latitude I can get my hands on for my work (Cisco, Juniper, 3Com etc) due to them having a proper serial port, what you tend to find is that the USB convertors don't allow you to send the Break sequence correctly and therefore you cannot get into ROMMON on a Cisco device at bootup.

Incidently, what Cisco switch is it?
It's the config file that needs to be deleted.

I can access the PROM without any issues, and I can also select the option to "Erase Flash File"
I then type the name of the file that needs to go (config) and press enter, but when the switch reboots the config file hasn't actually been deleted so the switch is still in a dumb state.

It's a Cisco/Linksys hybrid (SRW 2008) so that's why I'm not overly worried about giving it away, the offer I made to TB applies to you if you want it.
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« Reply #14 on: 04 February 2012, 18:18:50 »

Ah right, it's one of the SoHo devices, Only really work on the IOS based kit at command line.

Is it 'config' or 'startup-config'?

Most Cisco devices have a running-config and a startup-config, the startup-config gets copied and renamed to running-config on boot up and the switch / router runs according to this configuration. If you delete the running-config and reload the switch the startup-config is just copied again therefore to default the switch back to factory settings the startup-config needs to be deleted (but the Vlan database vlan.dat will remain).

Sorry if you already know this, :)
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