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Re: bottle jack
« Reply #15 on: 14 February 2012, 00:37:00 »
Quote from: chrisgixer on 14 February 2012, 00:30:32
Quote from: Vamps on 14 February 2012, 00:27:38
I have one that looks like that, had it years, also have a 'High Lift' one, not really been used, neither fit under the Mig with a flat tyre, well they do, but not in the right place so have to lift the car and then put another Jack in a more appropriate place......guess that is quite a common problem though...... ::) ::) ::)
I guess if the Jack is only ever used in the case of a puncture then, well...

... How many punctures do you have Mike? :)

One, but managed to get onto my drive, took two jacks to sort it, not really a problem and a Master Vamps to do the heavy work... :y :y

In 30+ years of motoring i can only recall having to change a wheel at the roadside, twice...... :)
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« Reply #16 on: 14 February 2012, 00:43:00 »
In which case the jack in the tool kit is more suitable for lower access. :-\

Maybe sell your trolley jack to the op?
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Re: bottle jack
« Reply #17 on: 14 February 2012, 01:07:41 »
Quote from: chrisgixer on 14 February 2012, 00:43:00
In which case the jack in the tool kit is more suitable for lower access. :-\Maybe sell your trolley jack to the op?

Never even looked at it, we had a puncture, soon sorted, never even considered Vx Jack..... ::) ::) ::)
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« Reply #18 on: 14 February 2012, 01:17:13 »
Quote from: Vamps on 14 February 2012, 01:07:41
Quote from: chrisgixer on 14 February 2012, 00:43:00
In which case the jack in the tool kit is more suitable for lower access. :-\Maybe sell your trolley jack to the op?

Never even looked at it, we had a puncture, soon sorted, never even considered Vx Jack..... ::) ::) ::)
;D oh well. "Jack unused" when you sell it then. :)
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Re: bottle jack
« Reply #19 on: 14 February 2012, 01:20:05 »
Quote from: chrisgixer on 14 February 2012, 01:17:13
Quote from: Vamps on 14 February 2012, 01:07:41
Quote from: chrisgixer on 14 February 2012, 00:43:00
In which case the jack in the tool kit is more suitable for lower access. :-\Maybe sell your trolley jack to the op?

Never even looked at it, we had a puncture, soon sorted, never even considered Vx Jack..... ::) ::) ::)
;D oh well. "Jack unused" when you sell it then. :)

Scrap it...... :-\ :-\
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Re: bottle jack
« Reply #20 on: 14 February 2012, 17:57:24 »
Hmmm, I might have to buy another jack soon...
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« Reply #21 on: 14 February 2012, 18:05:50 »
I use bottle jacks at work for some pretty fine positioning. They are excellant for that. If you really have to use one on a car it must be on very level, hard ground, preferably concrete floor. Also when jacking make sure car is in nuetral with handbrake off. This is a danger in itself and not to be recommended. The reason is so the car can move when being jacked, if it does not move then the jack will tend to "lean over"

Just my useless opinion based on 12 years of usng bottle jacks.
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« Reply #22 on: 14 February 2012, 18:07:58 »
That's what I used mine for, too - jacking a suspension upright up into position to meet a shock absorber. Much easier than man-handling it when there's only one of you around  :y

Though I could have done the same with the trolley jack to be fair - it's just that the trolley jack was under the back of the car.

Not that I'd work on a car without axle stands, you understand  :-[
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Re: bottle jack
« Reply #23 on: 14 February 2012, 18:46:39 »
I have a 3ton low jack, works really well, one of the best bits of kit I bought for the garage.



Its perfect for lowering diff ect too, as I find the Clarke ones have large "teeth" which does allow it to jam, the lift point on this is much flatter. Got a smaller jack for dual purpose jobs, used rarely.

Thing is with my main one though, is its too big when working inside the garage, especially getting between wall & car.

A bottle jack would be good for ease of use in confined spaces, if a decent one could be recommend, i'd be interested 
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« Reply #24 on: 14 February 2012, 20:05:45 »
Quote from: aaronjb on 14 February 2012, 18:07:58
That's what I used mine for, too - jacking a suspension upright up into position to meet a shock absorber. Much easier than man-handling it when there's only one of you around  :y

Though I could have done the same with the trolley jack to be fair - it's just that the trolley jack was under the back of the car.

Not that I'd work on a car without axle stands, you understand  :-[

I fully understand  :y I have on occasions bent the rules, I usually say to myself if the job does not warrant any part of my body going under the car then I will just rely on the trolley jack. I do however have a proffesional jack that even if it fell injuries would be limited. I know I have no excuse for my bad habits.  :-[
I have been considering something like this http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CAR-LIFT-MOBILE-SCISSOR-LIFT-GREAT-HOME-WORK-USE-/330686678525?pt=UK_Lifting_Moving_Equipment&hash=item4cfe7645fd but also think it has limited use for doing any work under the car.
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Re: bottle jack
« Reply #25 on: 14 February 2012, 20:39:48 »
Bottle jacks have their place.  I used one to keep a cheesecutter puzzle nut onto a locknut so that I could get the locking bolt removed.  Having a nearby wall to jam it against was a bonus....  :y
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Re: bottle jack
« Reply #26 on: 14 February 2012, 21:23:58 »
Quote from: Mantahatch on 14 February 2012, 20:05:45
I fully understand  :y I have on occasions bent the rules, I usually say to myself if the job does not warrant any part of my body going under the car then I will just rely on the trolley jack. I do however have a proffesional jack that even if it fell injuries would be limited. I know I have no excuse for my bad habits.  :-[
I have been considering something like this http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CAR-LIFT-MOBILE-SCISSOR-LIFT-GREAT-HOME-WORK-USE-/330686678525?pt=UK_Lifting_Moving_Equipment&hash=item4cfe7645fd but also think it has limited use for doing any work under the car.

Ditto - I wasn't under the car and the chances of it falling far enough sideways to crush me against the wall were very slim indeed (plus I happen to know an MR2 will happily tripod on three wheels - because a friend had his drop off a scissor jack once).

I've looked at those lifts - they look awfully unstable at max height, not that I could ever get a car that high in my garage. But I've been tempted, it would compliment the pit nicely  :y
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Re: bottle jack
« Reply #27 on: 14 February 2012, 21:25:45 »
I keep one to use as a backup (with the trolley) and to use for emergency use (smaler in the boot than a trolley jack) as I have a passionate hatred of the stupid manufacturer jacks (since I had 1 snap)...
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« Reply #28 on: 14 February 2012, 21:28:08 »
Quote from: Psychoca on 14 February 2012, 21:25:45
I keep one to use as a backup (with the trolley) and to use for emergency use (smaler in the boot than a trolley jack) as I have a passionate hatred of the stupid manufacturer jacks (since I had 1 snap)...

Wasn't an Audi was it, by any chance (or VWAG group car)? I know someone else who had an Audi scissor jack fold up as if it was made from tissue paper, IIRC it crushed part of him under the car, too (while changing a wheel).
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Re: bottle jack
« Reply #29 on: 14 February 2012, 21:30:52 »
Quote from: aaronjb on 14 February 2012, 21:28:08
Quote from: Psychoca on 14 February 2012, 21:25:45
I keep one to use as a backup (with the trolley) and to use for emergency use (smaler in the boot than a trolley jack) as I have a passionate hatred of the stupid manufacturer jacks (since I had 1 snap)...

Wasn't an Audi was it, by any chance (or VWAG group car)? I know someone else who had an Audi scissor jack fold up as if it was made from tissue paper, IIRC it crushed part of him under the car, too (while changing a wheel).
I didn't have one fold up, but the Brother in Law managed to knock his old Passat off the jack onto my hand when I was changing a wheel :o :o

Fortunately I always get the bottom of the wheel under the disk straight away and that took the bulk of it ;)
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