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[martin42]

its the 1's who constantly go through red lights that piss me off,if they use the road they must obey the laws,doesnt mean they can ignore red lights at crossings and junctions,and they should all have lights,if they havnt fixed penalty fine and insurance 

[GastronomicKleptomaniac]

I think when they go for a driving licence, everyone should have to spend a day (say, 8 hours) riding a bike through traffic, riding (or pillioning) on a motorcycle, driving a car, bus, and HGV (again, perhaps passengering from the cab), to understand the difficulties each one faces.

 I'm a cyclist, I try my best to be a decent one - and at night, I masquerade as a wom- er, Xmas tree, with a self-abuser jacket on for good measure. The mouth breathers of society still try to get as close as they can though.

[Gaffers]

The mouth breathers of society still try to get as close as they can though.

I find that by being assertive about my position in the road helps with that.  I dont mean riding in the middle of the road but if you give them a gap with inches to spare they'll take it.  If the road or gap is narrow move out and you'll force them to overtake you properly 

[Kevin Wood]

Seems a fair cop to me. Regardless of your attitude to cyclists, trying to run people over in a bus deserves a term with big winston, and I'd expect a professional driver to rise above such things.

[Andy B]

Seems a fair cop to me. Regardless of your attitude to cyclists, trying to run people over in a bus deserves a term with big winston, and I'd expect a professional driver to rise above such things.

My title was very much tongue in cheek & I agree completely Kevin. Who in their right mind tries to use a bus to get back at anyone else on the road, let alone a cyclist

[Varche]

I think when they go for a driving licence, everyone should have to spend a day (say, 8 hours) riding a bike through traffic, riding (or pillioning) on a motorcycle, driving a car, bus, and HGV (again, perhaps passengering from the cab), to understand the difficulties each one faces.

 I'm a cyclist, I try my best to be a decent one - and at night, I masquerade as a wom- er, Xmas tree, with a self-abuser jacket on for good measure. The mouth breathers of society still try to get as close as they can though.

I am with you on that one.I would also include riding a horse too. When I hitched as a student, I was amazed that lorries had to change gear on hills on Motorways. Once they lost speed it took forever to build it up again unlike in a car.

In Spain older and young folk who haven't ever passed a test can legally drive an Aixam type car. Great for mobility but they seem to have little road sense(perhaps) understandably. It is easy enough just to drop back a bit and give them space. Unfortunately people don't have any patience anymore in the stressed up world we live in.

[sassanach]

darwin has a habit of dealing with idiots,and people who play silly buggers with bus's with little more than skin for protection are always going to get hurt.to++ers the pair of them

[GastronomicKleptomaniac]

The mouth breathers of society still try to get as close as they can though.

I find that by being assertive about my position in the road helps with that.  I dont mean riding in the middle of the road but if you give them a gap with inches to spare they'll take it.  If the road or gap is narrow move out and you'll force them to overtake you properly 

Oh aye, through narrow gaps and the like - but sometimes on an open, wide road they still pass within 3 inches of my right elbow just to be tossers. All part of the fun, seeing if I can catch them up and watch them try to blank me at the next set of lights...

[D]

Although I dont condone what the bus driver did, I think the cyclist probably deserved it. If I remember right he banged on the bus, did something to its wipers and argued with the driver probably enraging him. Next time he wont argue and will probably just keep quiet. I personally dont understand people who demonstrate road rage by engaging other drivers and in the process upsetting them. You are just asking for trouble by doing that. I just have a rant within my car and will never try to get into an argument. Just worsens things and you never know how loony the other person is.

[Gaffers]

I think the cyclist probably deserved it.

We don't know the full picture of what happened, the cyclist did some stupid things but we don't know caused him to loose his rag.  It may have been something serious.  The driver is lucky not to have been done for attempted murder tbh.

To say he 'deserves' something like that is downright childish and a somewhat dangerous sweeping remark.

[Martian]

The mouth breathers of society still try to get as close as they can though.

I find that by being assertive about my position in the road helps with that.  I dont mean riding in the middle of the road but if you give them a gap with inches to spare they'll take it.  If the road or gap is narrow move out and you'll force them to overtake you properly 

Spot on advice 

Back in the mid 90's the missus decided she wanted a bike licence and as it was her first time on 2 wheels I went out with her as her pillion just to see how she would get on. Although she had road experience (and confidence) in a car, she was over cautious on 2 wheels and this was obvious by her general demeanour and road position (almost riding in the kerb).

One day we were out and we had this f**ckwit BMW driver who was driving so close that I could almost step off the bike and straight on to his bonnet. We eventually came to a set of lights and I got off with the intention of telling him to back off a little as she was obviously a learner and he would never react in time if she had to do an emergency stop.
In typical BMW driver fashion the driver got a little chopsy and responded with "if the silly tart ain't confident enough she shouldn't be on the road". I instantly flipped (she may be daft, but nobody calls her a tart) and poked said BMW driver straight in the eye with a gloved forefinger before getting back on the bike and telling the missus to ride away.
I went for his eye for 2 reasons:

1. It's very painful (for the recipient) and also ensures I have enough time to make good my escape before they hit me back.
2. He obviously wasn't using his eyes at the time, so I figured the temporary loss of one wouldn't have an impact on him.

I also gave the missus the same advice as you regarding assertiveness on the road and once she started riding accordingly it became a much more enjoyable pastime for her.
Another thing I have also noticed is that the bigger the bike the less the likelihood of other drivers trying to take the piss, I can only guess that's a psychological thing going on.

[Martian]

Seems a fair cop to me. Regardless of your attitude to cyclists, trying to run people over in a bus deserves a term with big winston, and I'd expect a professional driver to rise above such things.

My title was very much tongue in cheek & I agree completely Kevin. Who in their right mind tries to use a bus to get back at anyone else on the road, let alone a cyclist

Doesn't matter what the vehicle is, if you've lost the plot to the point where you consider it acceptable to use a vehicle to teach someone a lesson then you shouldn't be on the road full stop IMO.

[omega3000]

Eeek !!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDAYkdlKEGI&feature=related

Lucky escape there 

[Andy B]

Eeek !!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDAYkdlKEGI&feature=related

Lucky escape there 

Completely his fault too! I wonder who paid for the scrape down the side of the pick-up! 

[Gaffers]

Eeek !!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDAYkdlKEGI&feature=related

Lucky escape there 

Completely his fault too! I wonder who paid for the scrape down the side of the pick-up! 

What a c0ck!  Lucky he came out of that one alive.