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[r1]

we have a ring road thats 2 lanes both sides and a good cycle path on both sides yet cyclists still use the road.yes i know you dont have to use a cycle path but i cant understand why you would want to use the road and mix with cars etc

[D]

I think the cyclist probably deserved it.

We don't know the full picture of what happened, the cyclist did some stupid things but we don't know caused him to loose his rag.  It may have been something serious.  The driver is lucky not to have been done for attempted murder tbh.

To say he 'deserves' something like that is downright childish and a somewhat dangerous sweeping remark.

Perhaps, but if you decide to engage the driver by banging on the bus, and then arguing with them and fiddling with his wipers then surely you dont expect the driver to give him a hug? I would think what the cyclist did was more childish and unwarranted.

Once again I dont condone the drivers actions, but if what the cyclist did prior to this happening is true, then are you surprised this happened to him?

The last link above is why I personally hate bl00dy wan**r cyclists. I guarantee you, they are all wan***r cyclists in London. I have yet to see one waiting at a red light or not try and squeeze into an impossibly narrow gap.

[Kevin Wood]

Perhaps, but if you decide to engage the driver by banging on the bus, and then arguing with them and fiddling with his wipers then surely you dont expect the driver to give him a hug? I would think what the cyclist did was more childish and unwarranted.

Once again I dont condone the drivers actions, but if what the cyclist did prior to this happening is true, then are you surprised this happened to him?

The last link above is why I personally hate bl00dy wan**r cyclists. I guarantee you, they are all wan***r cyclists in London. I have yet to see one waiting at a red light or not try and squeeze into an impossibly narrow gap.

Bus drivers get abuse, I'm afraid. If not from other drivers, then from pi$$ed up passengers. They need to be able to take it without losing the plot.

I have no idea what this guy did to antagonise the bus driver but, as I said before, if he rose to it then he was unsuitable as a bus driver and, regardless of any provocation, trying to run someone over with a bus is not excusable. I guess it all worked out OK in the end, though, because I can't see him doing that job again in a hurry.

[Kevin Wood]

Having said that, it does seem that more motorists are anti-cyclist since the rise of the lycra-clad "I'm super-fit, better than you, exempt from the highway code and nooo! that's not really a bald patch under this cycle helmet" type of "W****r cyclist" evident in the second video.

I came up against a bunch of them on a Sunday morning a while back, three abreast, lycra'd up, on a country road. Obviously thought they were so super fit that they didn't need to ride single file to allow the traffic to pass like I was taught in my cycling profficiency test.

[Andy B]

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I came up against a bunch of them on a Sunday morning a while back, three abreast, lycra'd up, on a country road. Obviously thought they were so super fit that they didn't need to ride single file to allow the traffic to pass like I was taught in my cycling profficiency test.

Just 3 of them? A while back, I came across a whole club load of lycra louts that deemed it OK to fill the complete country road so no bugger could overtake. They them get the hump when you're within inches of them as you overtake. 

[pirate]

i live right on the route for the olympic cycle race last year was a test run absolute farse, now we have every dick with a bike here having ago at the course,not a problem if gray matter was used but no,groups of and single cyclists amoungst traffic 5 deep sometimes on the road not on the cycle paths amoungst 70 mph traffic,in the village i meet bikes comeing down the hill on my side of the road and i get shoutted at ?the road is only just about one and a half cars wide so its tight,they also ride out of the village right out and accross the flow of traffic instead of the underpass ,prob have a death before the olypics even starts.

[Gaffers]

The last link above is why I personally hate bl00dy wan**r cyclists. I guarantee you, they are all wan***r cyclists in London. I have yet to see one waiting at a red light or not try and squeeze into an impossibly narrow gap.

Thanks for the insult.

What you don't relaise is that it goes both ways.  Drivers hating cyclists is just going to make more of them break the law.  Cyclists flauting the law is going to make more motorists angry (or jealous perhaps?)  If you dont give him/her the room to move across to the other side lane to turn right then he will think his only option is to go before the light and get in front of the motorists.

I see plenty in London, including myself, who adhere to the law.  I wonder if maybe you only pay attention to those who go through red lights?  Although your tar-us-all-with-the-same-brush comments speak more about you than any cyclist you may have come across.

[Rods2]

All road users, hate all other road users especially those in other types of vehicles as it stops them progressing in a hassle free way. It is like during the rush hour we ALL complain about congestion as if it is a third party problem (everybody else), if we are driving on that road, we are part of that congestion. 

When I drive my car, motorcycle or bike, I obey the law as much as possible and try to drive as safely as possible, which includes being very defensive on a motorbike and bike as regardless who's fault it is your the one who gets hurt.

I like to have good situation awareness, so you can anticipate other motorists doing stupid things and try to be considerate to all other road users, use my indications (hand signals on bike), so other road users know what I'm doing, rather than having to guess. 

I see and have seen, very bad, dangerous driving by all types of road users but I also see much sensible considerate driving from all types as well. Everybody makes mistakes, including me, I accept that which is why I'm reasonable tolerant on other peoples mistakes. The road users I hate are the moronic cretins, who have no road sense and are far too arrogant, important, and in such a hurry, for the law any other sort of consideration to possibly apply to them and are quite happy to recklessly endanger not only their own and passengers lives but those of other road users as well.

This sort of cretin can range from a pedestrian dodging cars crossing the road, yards from a pedestrian crossing, cyclists jumping lights to idiots doing 60mph+ showing off on a Saturday afternoon in a busy high street (yes, I've seen it down Camberley High Street).

If you asked me to pick out a group of road users who are generally the most skilled and courteous, then it would probably be HGV drivers and the most reckless (especially towards cyclists), young drivers, parents doing the school run and taxi drivers.

The reason cyclists tend not to use cycle paths is that most of them are useless and not fit for purpose and if you are a high speed cyclist then cycle / pedestrian paths are more dangerous than cycling on the road as hitting a pedestrian at speed will hurt you and them and have caused fatalities.

When I used to belong to Farnborough and Camberley cycle club and was very, very fit, (I wish I was that fit now!) I used to do 100-200 miles a week on my bike and do 20-25mph on the flat and up to 50mph down hills and there were cyclists much faster than me who could average 30-32mph on flat, many of whom did time trialing and racing with a few becoming professional cyclists. This sort of cycling with cycle paths and pedestrians is much, much too dangerous.

When I used to go out with the cycle club on a Sunday morning, we would typically do 50 to 60 miles, using country roads as much as possible, so we caused the least disruption to other road users, the roads were much quieter than they are now, but did we occasional cause minor congestion, yes, just like 30 to 50 cars using the same stretch of road would.

The British used to be known for their tolerance and respect for each other. Since the 1960's this has got progressively worse and is something, regretfully, pretty much lost from our society, with the selfish, me first, it's me 'uman rights ain't it, attitude all too prevalent now. 

[Andy B]

...  I wonder if maybe you only pay attention to those who go through red lights?...

I've yet to see a cyclist stop at a red light ............ 

I ain't jealous of them not queueing, I have a bike too that I can beat the traffic on ................ my bike has an engine though 

[Rods2]

You, obviously haven't seen me on my bike, as I always stop at red lights.

Looking for a cyclist and stress free way to travel? 

Well here's your answer (and Guffer would approve): 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-kent-17084308

[D]

The last link above is why I personally hate bl00dy wan**r cyclists. I guarantee you, they are all wan***r cyclists in London. I have yet to see one waiting at a red light or not try and squeeze into an impossibly narrow gap.

Thanks for the insult.

What you don't relaise is that it goes both ways.  Drivers hating cyclists is just going to make more of them break the law.  Cyclists flauting the law is going to make more motorists angry (or jealous perhaps?)  If you dont give him/her the room to move across to the other side lane to turn right then he will think his only option is to go before the light and get in front of the motorists.

I see plenty in London, including myself, who adhere to the law.  I wonder if maybe you only pay attention to those who go through red lights?  Although your tar-us-all-with-the-same-brush comments speak more about you than any cyclist you may have come across.

Do you have to make this personal? I have not yet made a remark directed to you personally as such, yet you have made 2 posts making assumptions about my attitude and me as such.

I have no problems with any other type of road user. I hate cyclists because of the lack of accountability (eg: lycra wearing dickhead scratches the side of my car and makes a run for it across a red light, by the time the light has changed to green he has disappeared down some side road. No number plates or any way of tracking him down? If it was a car at least I have a number plate to prove my lack of fault to my insurer).

Its just my opinion of them, dont make it personal please and avoid making assumptions about my character! I enjoy cycling myself, but do so away from the congestion of London where there are fewer cars and less danger.

[SteveAvfc.]

Round them up put them in a field and bomb the bar stewards.

[Gaffers]

WTF?

When you go out of your way to a courteous cyclist who obeys the rules of road you dont expect to be lumped together with the wreckless ones.  If you cannot distinguish between those that break the law and those who are sensible road users then that is foolish.   And I will take it personal if you call me a w**ker, just like you would if the tables were reversed.

[D]

Round them up put them in a field and bomb the bar stewards.

Yes, all of them. Couldnt agree more. Have yet to see a courteous cyclist. All of them seem rubbish and some are very touchy! 

[hotel21]

Random generalisation is the sperm of dissent and resentment.

Tarring all members of ANYTHING or ANYONE will always lead to tears.

Remember:-

Some cyclists are law abiding and keep to the highway code.

Not all cops are pricks.

Not all blondes are stupid.

Not all folks with tatts from wrist to ankle are neds and hard of thinking.

Not all disabled badge holders park indiscriminently.

Not all young ladies who dress like tarts are on the game.

Not all OOFers jump in with both fingers on the keyboard without thinking.

etc etc etc

You get the gist.

please, play nicely.